I have a buddy born in the 70s and he seethes the curses of JJ up and down if you mention that version of treks. I think his core issue is with the violence, the transformer-esque boom bastic nature of it all. It is decisively not within the realm of a vision you’d see out of the creator, roddenbery.

if it was called something else? those movies would be baller. its just he kind of threw a trek shirt over his obnoxious director style and went to town on an established universe.