The content on all the communities seem different.

Why didn’t the “copycats” get the “this community name has already been taken” message?

It was bad enough at The Other Place finding one overlooked sub about one of your interests.

Now you have to find every single community in every single instance if you hope to talk about your topic?

I mean, look at this:

No Stupid Questions@lemmy.world

No Stupid Questions@kbin.social

No Stupid Questions@lemmy.ca

No Stupid Questions@mander.xyz

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    “That’s the way of the world” is usually said by Ayn Rand types who don’t care about anyone else or know how to make things better.

    Also, they paint the questioner as some nutter obsessed with finding every single byte about a topic.

    And, no one is “stuck” on anything, we notice a defect and want to find a solution.

    So think about this. Suppose you’re making a community for, say, Ukrainians who have taken refuge in the USA.

    What kind of person shrugs off their need to find each other and says “Suck it up buttercup”. Or makes fun of them for asking.

    Yes, there are inconvenient and irritating ways of handling the problem. Shrugging it off just tells me what kind of person you are, but it doesn’t improve anything.

    Now, what we could do - crazy, I know, hear me out - is think of a way to conglomerate all the content from diverse instances with different policies into one community where anyone can hear everyone else.

    Two kinds of people in this world. The ones who start asking mocking questions, and those who put their heads together.

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      It’s not like there is absolutely no solution. There are a lot of tools for finding Lemmy communities right now. You could go to one of these tools and search for Ukraine and get a list of communities.

      Subscribing to all of them is effectively making a conglomerate of their content in your home feed. I don’t see anything wrong with this approach. Other than that things will naturally work themselves out over time as people tend towards a single community.

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      I don’t think auto-combining similar named communities is a viable solution, except in the case of users doing it themselves (e.g. multireddits or whatever).

      Different communities, even with the “same name” (technically not possible because the @domain is part of the name), will have different vibes based on who participates, who moderates, what instances they’re on, etc. Mashing all of those together would at minimum, be a bad user experience and at worst, invite tons of harassment from ‘troll’ communities.

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      You calling me Ayn Rand for saying that we should not hand over all power to a single corporation and then in the same breath also suggesting conglomerating all instances into one is… a bit absurd in my opinion. I am also going to choose to overlook you trying to link having the option to click ‘subscribe’ three times to the plight of Ukrainian refugees.

      I do apologize if it seems I’m “mocking” anyone. Clearly that is not my intention - especially on ‘No Stupid Questions’. Try not to become so defensive here, we’re just having a conversation.

      You asked and I shared my response.

      Best of luck.

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      The process you are going through now is how things get “better”.

      Right now there a a multitude of communities across multiple instances that all superficially appear to be the same thing; if you must have ready access to all of it in your feed then yes you will need to subscribe to all of them.

      The reality is that these places are not all the same. Not everyone is going to want to join all of them and they will be subject to different moderation. There will be different levels of activity and on the whole different vibes.

      Over time, some will diverge, some will diminish and some will close and direct you to post elsewhere.

      If you’re comparing to Reddit - that is a place where a lot of this has already happened; for mainstream subjects one sub became dominant but it’s worth bearing in mind that for some niche subjects there would still be a handful to subscribe to for a fuller picture.

      It’ll happen here too; over time things will evolve and settle into a pattern.

      As for the caring part - caring comes across in how we choose to interact with each other on here; the way we do that will strongly influence the way these communities grow and change over time.

      So. We can influence how things will be. No individual person or entity will ever be in complete control. So it goes.

      Edit: Also, the communities search tool on Lemmy.World reveals more communities with the same name: https://lemmy.world/search?q=nostupidquestions&type=Communities

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      I think you’ve lost some perspective here. You asked a simple question, and people explained how it works.

      Do you want to group all the communities together? Take it up with the W3C Social Web Working Group, who own the standard for ActivityPub. It’s a group of people, make your concerns known and maybe they’ll agree with you and change it. I don’t think they will, because I don’t agree that this is a problem that needs to be solved, but I’m not part of that group, so I guess that doesn’t matter.

      In the meantime, why are you reacting like this to the helpful people who answered your question?

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      And the ones asking bad faith questions, acting willfully obtuse over completely trivial bullshit non issues.