• givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    Israeli forces killed three Palestinians who were armed with knives, a rifle and axes and were trying to break into a settlement in the occupied West Bank overnight between Friday and Saturday, the Israeli military said.

    So…

    The people from the country that legally control that land…

    Broke into a “settlement” by another country that has no legal claim to that land?

    This is like trying to frame the French resistance as the bad guys because the nazis totally called dibs on Paris…

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      Israel murdered three teens who attempted to resist their subjugation, and then essentially bragged about it to the world.

      Can’t make this shit up.

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        That’s how messed up it is over there.

        Their extremists honestly think they’re the victims and everyone should be on their side. And if anyone doesn’t support them stealing land, the only possible reason could be antisemitism

        It’s what happens when you stop thinking of people from a different racial/ethnic/religious group as human.

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        What do you think the French resistance used to fight off Nazi invaders?

        Kind words and warm baguettes?

        The “settlers” often have armed IDF escorts when they take the land. And considering the IDF was still there, that might have only been hours earlier.

        And that’s not getting into how even as bad as this sounds…

        The only thing we know is what IDF and the “settlers” say. They could have made up any story and what they’re saying still makes them the obvious villains in the story.

        They might have just walked up, executed these Palestinians, and then thrown some hand tools around them and cried victim.

        That shit happens.

        In 2024 why are you taking the word of “settlers” with no legal right to where they’re settling?

        Or the foreign military who have no reason to be in that foreign country to begin with except to help steal the land?

        There’s no justification for them to even be there.

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          The French Resistance wasn’t stupid enough to take on an armed encampment. Then again, these were stupid kids. And it goes on. Missles still fly into Israel. Raids like this still happen.

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            So…

            If someone showed up to your house with a foreign government’s military. And they said they’re taking all your belongings and to fuck off or they’ll kill you.

            How many times would you start a new life from nothing before fighting back?

            Would you eventually just lay down and die instead of starting over? Or do you think eventually the foreign military will kill you first if you don’t put your hands up fast enough?

            What would you do in their shoes if this was such a terrible plan?

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                Justify what?

                Fighting to take their land back from illegal foreign invasion?

                Why are you ok with the illegal seizure of land that as far as anyone can tell, literally just happened since the IDF was still there?

                A bunch of foreign soldiers show up and point guns at you so if you don’t die right then it’s their forever?

                I’m not trying to justify anything. I’m trying (and failing) to understand what you’re going on about.

                If the original land owners had brought their own military with guns, would that mean they got it back, is that the difference?

                So anyone with a gun just automatically gains land rights?

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        My best guess would be they need them to defend themselves against oppression, similar to how someone in Ukraine might need them to defend themselves from Russia.

        But you’re right that axes are probably not enough to stop Israel.

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    10 months ago

    Not to make light of this story - I thought I was clicking on a story about somebody with three arms. Its too early.