Researchers have linked dietary data from over 55,000 individuals with data on the environmental impacts of the foods they eat. The team, from the Livestock, Environment and People (LEAP) project at the University of Oxford, found that the dietary impacts of vegans were around a third of those of high meat eaters. They also saw a 30% difference between high- and low-meat diets for most of the measures of environmental harm.
No shit? Is this not obvious and generally understood?
No, I think you’re in a bubble if you think that
look, a vegan diet isn’t perfect, but I’m genuinely confused - literally every single animal product, meat or otherwise, takes at least several pounds of plant matter per pound of product, often dozens or hundreds of pounds of plant matter per pound of product. This is the basic physics of metabolism and energy conservation. This doesn’t even regard the extra energy and equipment of shipping around feed, clear-cutting land, building structures, using dozens to hundreds of times more water, and using far more fertilizer and farming energy to make feed. Do you have an argument that eating meat is better for the climate, or is this objection all based on vibes?
Um, not positive what OP meant but I interpreted them as saying you are in a bubble if you think its obvious, not a bubble if you think its true. Which to be honest, I also had the gut reaction of “well duh this is pretty obvious” but for some people it very much is not obvious.
Ohhh I most definitely am in a bubble. But it’s also just common sense. You have to produce plant food, then ship the food to cows for them to eat and grow then to be killed and eaten. And it’s not like you put 60 kilos in and you get 60 kilos of meat. Just look at yourself for an example. So it’s only natural that if you simply feed the plants to the humans it would be better in every way. People should know this shit mate.
I asked how bad this really is: to produce one kilogram of beef requires 25 kilograms of grain – to feed the animal – and roughly 15,000 litres of water
animals are fed parts of plants that people can’t or won’t eat. and cows eat mostly grass.
EDIT: Ignore … I didn’t realise this was all about the environment … though that being said … it’s basic common sense … each stage of processing adds inefficiencies.
It’s fairly universal common sense that plenty of fruit and vegetables and core to a healthy diet. From there it really isn’t a stretch to at least wonder whether going vegan is pretty healthy. The only things that would preclude such an idea from seeming feasible are probably propaganda around dairy and meta products, unfortunately. But even then, you can start thinking about the health problems of red meat and high fat diets.
This article is about environmental impact, not health impact
Ha … time to sleep! Sorry … rather dumb of me!!!