• I Cast Fist@programming.dev
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    1 year ago

    Gotta love all the 'muricans trying to defend their exceptionalism and blaming Afghanistan and its people for the country’s woes.

    USA never cared about Afghanistan or its people. In the 1980s, it, along with Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and United Kingdom, helped fund the muhajideen fighting against the Soviet Union (Soviet-Afghan war). As soon as the war was over and the soviets retreated, the funding dried up.

    After 9/11, USA went into a bloodlust, invading Afghanistan because they (Taliban) wanted proof that Osama bin Laden was involved with the terrorist attack first. bin Laden fled to Pakistan, but the USA didn’t invade them, nor threatened to. Instead, USA just kept their boots on foreign soil because, hey, free real state and cheap poppy, amirite?

    Also, since at least 2010, it’s been publicly known that Pakistan has been helping the Taliban in fighting for Afghanistan. Yet, there were no sanctions, no tough talks, no threats, nothing, against Pakistan.

  • DONTBANTHISACCOUNT@kbin.social
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    The only way Afghanistan is going to see Democracy IMHO is about the same way as Nazi Germany n imperial Japan … The world has to get involved in it’s rebuilding

    Same for Russia, if there is some kind of end of war … Russia will always go back to it’s corrupt/ evil ways… Without intervention there’s no hope…

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      1 year ago

      Nah. The Germans and the Japanese have a sense of State, of common history someone could build upon. Japan went to the Middle Ages to the industrial era in little more than 100 years once it made contact with Europeans. Germany was always a great European power.

      The Afghani have nothing of the sort. Their politics is nothing more than a bunch of warring tribes trying to outdo each other in backwardness.

      And Russia is a nuclear power. Nobody is going to touch them with a ten-foot pole, certainly not in the way Germany and Japan were rebuilt post-WWII.

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        Japan didn’t have anything pre-WW1, it’s literally why in WW2 they had to invade China, there weren’t enough resources in Japan to establish an industrial base for their empire.

        And Germany wasn’t even unified until what, the 1870’s? Germany is technically a younger country than the U.S, same with Italy, it’s pure revisionism to say that European countries were ever united because they weren’t until WW1 when Ultra-Nationalism became the name of the game in geopolitics.

        I think you people are just legitimately uninformed about world history. The Afghans have the same thing going on for them, but Russia screwed it all up and created their divisions when they invaded

  • 👁️👄👁️@lemm.ee
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    What do they expect? Permanent US occupation? If they really expect that, then they’re going to need to make themselves a US territory or deal with themselves.

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    At some point, the people of Afghanistan should be able to take control of their own country. How can a vast majority of the people sit there and let a tiny percentage dictate the lives and rules for everyone? Kick the Taliban out of your country.

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      No shit. The second we left they fell apart. No resistance.

      As far as I’m concerned we should only help those that help themselves, like Ukraine is doing. Afghanistan has always been Taliban simps. Those women know where their men sleep and have knives ffs.

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        1 year ago

        Yeah, we should only help white people right?

        This is a great message for the world, we’ll help you, as long as you’re white

  • mayo@lemmy.today
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    I know way too little about this to have an actual opinion about it. I read the article just as a way to learn more about what’s going on with those people right now. At the very least their lives are ruined, and we’re mostly just hearing from the refugees.

    Ending quote: The man blames the former Afghan government under Ashraf Ghani and the international coalition, which operated in the country for 20 years, for “everything falling apart so quickly.” “We have lost everything, even our hope for the future. We’re living in a country of lies, a country that no longer exists,” he concludes.

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        No. Trump promised to pull out the troops if the Taliban committed to combating terrorism. Sleepy Joe’s administration was the one who decided to finally pull out.