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As is the case normally with these “exodus” things, most people went back to Reddit after the first month here.

I guess majority on fedi are dumbasses in that case ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Mastodon is pretty fucked up anyway because everyone is on mastodon.social.

Because the people signed the pact did it long time ago, before any details about Threads federation was known. It was a typical fedi kneejerk reaction.

It’s a silly hashtag för instances that are in a “pact” to block Threads

Somehow I don’t think many instance admins have resources or knowhow to drive legal processes against Meta?

And while a disclaimer on the instance page might have some effect, the Federation protocol makes it hard to avoid getting a copy of the said content in your cache.

How do we accomplish that?

Why spend the money up front? That’s just bad business.

Yeah agreed. They’re building a multi-million dollar social network - why spend all that money up front when they could have just installed small anonymous Pleroma on Raspberry Pi for under 100 bucks if they’d wanted to mine our data.

I don’t think fedi is their “target”.

I bet he does. You can block/mute influencers pretty easily and you can block the whole domain if you so wish.
He’s talking about some kind of nefarious ad injection into ActivityPub objects as part of server to server activities.

I think he’s talking about people on his own instance.
He’s Fosstodon admin, so pretty sure he knows how federation works.

doesn’t mean we have to hand it to them on a silverplatter and allow them to scrape it legally

They could have just set up a simple Pleroma on Raspberry Pi and it would have been just as “legal” as any other instance. You’d need to turn on AUTHORIZED_FETCH and set up authentication on the Mastodon API, otherwise everything is public and unauthenticated (even if the instance is suspended/defederated).

But if enough instances say no, that means they are not welcome. Democracy and all

mastodon.social has already said yes. So have all the other big instances. Most of them have said “we’ll wait and see”. So democracy served I guess

And the last point is the dumbest: Threads will just include a revenue sharing model like Youtube does

Yeah, maybe. Who knows. I’ll deal with it when it happens rather than knee-jerk years in advance. Threads has a long way to go, it’s missing a lot of features to put it on par with their other commercial competitors, so I think they’re going to be busy doing other things.

Simo Häyhä has entered the chat.

Yeah, that’s pretty much my take as well.

All the “but muh datas” pearl clutching is just annoying and frankly, ridiculous. If they wanted to mine us, they already would have. They’re probably doing it as we speak. They didn’t have to create a multi-million social network for it. A raspberry pi on someones desk would have sufficed. Fedi doesn’t have any (/very much) privacy.

They’re doing this to escape the wrath of EU privacy watchdogs. They were already fined for $1.3bn and more is coming. Running their Twitter killer on interoperable protocol is nice, because it’s free and they get to point at W3C and say they’re LIKE TOTALLY supporting data portability. Why would they “extend and extinguish” that? It’s their alibi.

I don’t like Meta. It’s a shit company ran by shit people. I hope they burn in hell.
But I can’t really get my panties in a twist about threads.net existing.

I’ll get angry if they somehow figure out to push ads to my face.

But for now. Maybe I’ll block it. Maybe I won’t. We’ll see.

Yeah will be interesting to see if they enable two-way federation. It’s problematic for them

Not more than it is now. Everything is already public so if they need it, they’ve already been collecting it. This doesn’t really change anything.

Will be interesting to see how they deal with nazis and CSAM from all the Japanese servers.

Yes, because the last two years have been so full of fantastically good news.

Mastodon has user defined word filters, you can completely mute this crap (of course people love misspelling his name).
I wish lemmy/kbin would get something similar it’s really annoying to have this fucker in my feed daily.

I guess mainly:
Activity Pub is actually official W3C standard. There are yearly conferences, development and it’s open.
That AT protocol is owned by Bluesky, they decide how it’s developed, what gets in, what goes out and to my knowledge it’s actually not implemented anywhere else (yet).

20% seems really low, but I guess it’s better than 0%

I think it might have been an idea to make instance federation to default into a whitelist instead of relying on everyone having to blacklist random raspberry pies around the world.