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I’d feel weird for going into the streets to protest against Israel for killing terrorists who murdered other jews. A jewish person showing up at a pro Palestinian rally is like asking to be hatecrimed.

Very interesting, I didn’t expect their margins to be this low. 9% is nothing for the capital investment you have to put up to get and run an airline, no wonder so many of them are going broke.

International support for Israel is at all all time low so I don’t see how that’s the case.

Is that so? Now I’m curious, can you point anything that isn’t a strongly worded letter from the ICJ or another UN resolution, neither of which have any enforcement mechanisms whatsoever? Any major sanctions? A SWIFT ban like for Russia?

Or someone who’d attack the ANC for their violent resistance against South Africa’s Apartheid government. Expecting the oppressed to only resort to “morally correct” methods when they’re in a situation where they can’t choose their methods has never helped anyone except the oppressors.

How do people come up with this crap? I couldn’t come up with analogies this bad if I tried. If the ANC would have killed thousands of white settlers and Mandela would have sworn an oath to kick all of them out of the country then this would be somewhat close to a good analogy. But since you seem illiterate on their history, the ANC is a prime example of the difference in effectiveness between armed uprisings and peaceful resistance. When they were violent, they didn’t do shit. When they were peaceful, the Apartheid ended.

Here’s some evidence. It’s a biased but reliable source and their source with translation.

From what I briefly read up on this, there’s basically one newspaper alleging this to be the case and one IDF colonel saying more broadly that the so called “Hannibal directive” was used. The evidence seems very thin, this also seems highly unpractical from a military perspective. Even if there was any truth to this I fail to see what point you are trying to make. Hamas killed over a thousand Israeli in a day and the only real goal was to kill as many as they could. And the Palestinians cheered them on and are still supportive of “the cause”. That’s just unhinged and severely limits my sympathy for them.

Yeah but again that’s not what you said before. Before that it was le evil manager guy not risking his booonus

That something that they’re doing is currently getting a lot of their civilians killed while not really archiveing any tangible military goals. I think I remember the incident you are referencing and even if I trust your statement that it stopped the evictions, “terrorism worked in the past, therefore terrorism is justified” strikes me as a very weak argument. You’d probably complain if I said that Isreal going ballistic against its enemies worked for them in the past, therefore an ethnic cleansing of Gaza is A-OK, right?

We now know a lot more details about how bad the terrorist attacks really are and that they justify dismantling Hamas. Even the surrounding Arab nations hate them and want them gone, so no recognized powers (except Iran, maybe?) are doing anything about Isreals actions. If you referring to the memes about Isreal killing their own civillians that were uncritically amplified by western media then too bad, most of these claims were made up.

Btw I don’t really look too much at any of the involved parties in any conflict when it comes to getting the facts straight, they’re good for corroberation at best.

I could see the crew having a profit incentive if what you said is true but that’s a different argument

Resisting is probably fine but doing large scale terrorist attacks against civilians and blindly firing rockets into Isreali territory is unhinged and in no way justified.

It’s a bit more difficult, since you have to substitute letters and pronunciations that don’t really exist in the Latin alphabet e.g. Я>ya, Щ>shch. For English there is no one correct pronunciation of words so there are regional differences. The the way you would write these sounds drifts even further apart in other languages, in German I would write the two examples like: Я>ja, Щ>schtsch

Not sure if that helps but translating what essentially boils down to different sounds is a bit of a mess.

Don’t give too much air to that argument, drawing broad comparisons between the legitimate struggle of the sovereign country of Ukraine against Russia and the Israeli response to the all out terrorist attacks of Gaza against them is pretty insulting to Ukraine. I’d imagine zelensky being jewish is also somewhat of a factor in his perspective.

It seems a bit odd to me that the crew would stick up for some manager this much. Especially since the plane did not depart in time either way. I’m leaning towards something going wrong with the communication between the airport and crew, resulting in them having no permission to deboard the plane but your guess is as good as mine.

Talking completely out of my rear end here but whenever something like that happens it is usually a liability issue. Neither the airline - let alone the crew want passengers anywhere outside their plane after boarding. There’s a billion things that could go wrong if they left the plane. The crew could have likely fixed the issue with free drinks or something like that but then again, liability…

They make a good team though, one makes a civilian installation a military target by conducting military operations from it, the other blows up said military target. That is unless the jihadist rockets misfire and kill everyone on the hospital parking lot, then it becomes a solo mission

One state is delusional and neither party wants that… Well maybe the Palestinians want it to gain the population majority and vote for a bunch of anti jew legislation or simply pogrom them out of existence.

Two states with less shitty borders would be a bit more realistic, maybe the 1967 parameters or so. But currently both Palestinians and Israeli want to keep fighting because they both think it will help them reach their goals - and one of them is correct, guess who.

Sure all sanctions are international pressure but not all international pressure is in the form of sanctions. The pressure we are seeing right now is mainly in the form of strongly worded letters and I don’t expect that to change unless Israel dramatically escalates its war efforts or annexes areas.

International pressure was not a major reason for the undoing of the Apartheid, massive sanctions were. And there’s no way major sanctions will come upon Israel any time soon since everyone pretty much agrees that Hamas has to be removed, even if they don’t want to say it out loud.

This is the most smooth brained take anyone could come away with. No one benefits from the Suez canal being closed. Even the military industrial complex will keep suffering from this.

Not really, it’s just going to be a strongly worded letter with no real enforcement mechanism.

When did he say that? 2006 or so?

Maybe Czechia should take them over again, they seem to have their shit together