The article doesn’t allege starving, dehydration, or forced labor. Even assuming appalling conditions, with ~500 kcal per day, and accounting for 5-10 lbs of water weight loss due to dehydration, we’d still be talking about a daily calorie deficit of around -3000 kcal. That’s “run a marathon every day” territory. I don’t see how that is physically possible.
Is it medically possible to lose 25kg in 45 days? That’s like 1.2 lbs per day. You’d have to eat literally nothing and also run a marathon every single day. This part seems wildly implausible.
That you felt the need to show a bias check for Reuters, and are getting downvoted for it, is fucking wild.
This was apparently an apartment building a Belgian group was using until they evacuated. Hamas could have started using it since the war started, or Israel thought they were, or it even could have been an accident. All way more plausible than singling out a Belgium aid group for a revenge bombing.
Here’s an actual source that isn’t a Turkish propaganda network: Reuters
Note how a real news agency states facts instead of injecting an elaborate “revenge for funding the UNRWA” narrative, mentions that the date and reason for the bombing is unknown, and notes zero expected casualties.
To anyone visualizing a comically long canal running straight through like 5 countries, you’re not actually far off. Unfortunately, it’s just a railroad to Moscow.
Ah yes Iran, that great bastion of human rights where they throw gay people off buildings and stone people to death.
Iran doesn’t give a shit about Palestinians. Instability in the region keeps them in relative power. Everything they do should be viewed in that light.
Yeah for total deaths. Mine add up to 26k. These numbers have never been civilian only.
Unfortunately I think we need to be drawing from the “children” numbers here. Hamas uses teenage soldiers extensively, and they have every incentive to put them on the front lines and report them under the “dead children” numbers.
My personal belief, and feel free to disagree, is that the numbers look something like this:
Hamas militants killed: 3000 adults, 5000 children (aged 16 - 18), all male. Totaling 8000.
Civilians killed: 5000 children, 5000 women, 8000 men. Totalling 18000.
It’s just genocide all the way down with you guys
Oh they definitely exaggerate - all parties to a conflict do. I accounted for that by using their estimates from more than a month ago against Hamas’s current casualty counts. I think that’s a fairly even-handed take but I’m sure people will disagree.
It was 70% last month. Was that an overcount or is this an undercount?
You think Israel dropped 25,000 bombs, invaded, and has been waging urban combat for 4 months, but has only killed 1,000 Hamas militants? That’s just silly.
Also Hamas uses child soldiers extensively (including as suicide bombers) so you can drop the “adult” part.
Did I take a position on the genocide question? No.
I stated 2 facts, which you seem to find inconvenient for your narrative. We don’t have a disagreement, unless you’re disputing them?
It doesn’t fit your narrative, but the civilian/military casualty numbers are on the high side of normal for urban combat.
Super weird to defend distributing Hamas propaganda. Helping them hurts Palestinians too, who generally don’t like Hamas.
You’re including both civilian and soldier deaths (which is what Hamas wants you to do, don’t help them). Best estimates are now 8-10k Hamas soldiers, 16-18k civilians.
Bystander, noun: “a person who is present at an event or incident but does not take part.”
They were bystanders until they were taken hostage. Now they’re being forced to take part involuntarily, which makes them victims.
Super weird point to fight on. Obviously there are victims in every war.
They look more like victims to me, being taken hostage for 4 months and all. But you do you
Fun fact: the US Chamber of Commerce is not a government agency. It’s just a private (nonprofit) business that loves to be confused with one.
So what’s it like to actually piss like a racehorse? I bet it gets old around day 4