This was really cool, it’s nice that fans are saving smaller less famous props and things from the show that could have easily been thrown out. Thanks for sharing.

Seriously! I love the weirdo foss geeks but we need some fresh weird.

I just did earlier this week!!

I did too! Watched it on initial release but skipped the finale, then watched a second time with the finale. Like a lot of Trek it is even better the second time, there is a shocking amount of attention to detail for a silly cartoon.

My favorite aspect that LDS really nailed was that it regularly turned a Trek trope on it’s head, and the “twist” in so many episodes turned out to be a positive well-intentioned misunderstanding instead of an ulterior motive.

Great point about Mariner’s bridge comment. One of my fav LDS moments.

I’m inclined to agree, and the series from the past decade have definitely attracted a younger audience, though I’m guessing probably not to the degree the producers were hoping and also without holding onto as many of the olds as they were hoping.

I also think the latter half of the 20th century was a unique time where families were sitting down to watch family-friendly (it’s true don’t deny it) TV like Star Trek together.

I see this take a lot, but it frankly just doesn’t reflect what I see on the screen. Can you give some examples from the shows that influenced you to form that opinion? I agree DS9 could probably be correctly be considered “dystopian , brooding and militaristic”, sure, but Discovery, Picard and SNW are (if anything) cloyingly optimistic and positive!

Dammit, I saw the single comment and I knew someone had beaten me to it.

Same, I’ve already finished a second watch through

I’ve watched this seven times and I can confirm that it gets dumber every time. 10/10.

In Star Wars the droids seem pretty ok with their situation as servants. I suppose you could describe Zora in Discovery similarly, but I’m struggling to think of other examples in Trek.

What are you going to do a 360 kickflip over? Water?

That sidesteps the question of why all of these comically evil people are okay with using this arbitrary contest to determine succession, instead of the usual route of organically murdering each other until someone emerges who is good enough at disposing of potential assassins that they keep the throne for a while?

I’m saying they’re not ok with it, but they are trapped in the current system. It’s like, an allegory, maaan.

I didn’t watch the movie, so I’m probably missing something. Did Georgiou also have to deal with a bunch of normal assassination plots after officially gaining the throne? Or are we to assume that by virtue of winning this contest, she is widely seen as too dangerous for anyone to attempt to usurp?

Sort of the latter, which is kind of the central plot device.

I’m hesitant to give the Section 31 writers this much credit, but a recurring theme from Star Trek (especially since TNG), is the notion that people are a product of the cultures they come from, and asks the question of if they can grow beyond it.

This move showed us that Terran empire causes suffering for everyone, even for the top leaders. The system is working for nobody and yet they are all stuck within it. The system of abusing children to choose a new leader seems engineered to make sure that nobody can escape.

Georgiou, somehow, escaped. And now she’s (in her own words) “a monster with a conscious (ie: useless)” in a system that has no need for monsters. She felt useless to change the empire, and useless to do anything once she found it no longer surrounding her.

That was the best Syfy-channel-pilot-for-a-show-that-ultimatley-didn’t-get-picked-up-from-2002 that I’ve ever seen.

What is the line?

implies the Federation of TNG is a naive facade

Man, is there anything more 90s scifi than this concept?

inb4 someone on lemmy says a single piece of media they haven’t even seen is responsible for “shitting all over the entire franchise”

EDIT: nvm

Villains who’s engineered virus forced the Dominion to the negotiating table… just saying.

“Good and evil isn’t as black and white as TNG portrayed it” is kinda DS9’s whole deal.