We probably were not living on the same planet, then, you and me. :) From what I saw, in the 2000’, there were no “backend developers” either. We were all webdevelopers, then younger people started to call us “fullstack developers” when they specialized. But the hate against javascript is way older than that. Already in the early 2000s, it was considered a malware language. It’s only when prototype.js and scriptaculous introduced web animations that people started to consider it seriously. Even then, jQuery’s main sale point was that it allowed to do the least possible amount of js. Anyway, it doesn’t matter when and why you started hating, hate is always wrong, period.

Wow, people are still showing disdain for javascript? I thought we were done with that since “frontend development” became a thing.

It will definitely fall into the category of “part of a larger collaboration ecosystem”, but Gitlab checks all your boxes : it’s open-source, installable on premise, allows groups, with their own discussions, handling uploads… And then, it can also host git repositories. 😅 They made an insane work on workflows so you can pretty much customize the tool how you want, including executing automated scripts when whatever event happens.

Ahah. Don’t worry, it bothers me as well. :) But well, we can’t solve our problems if we refuse to see them. Personally, I think the Beaker way was promising, but it was a project relying on a few people, so it died when they moved on. Maybe we will see something similar coming from IPFS, it’s a promising direction. The old recipe probably still work : for something to stick, it needs a standard and multiple implementations (that’s exactly why ActivityPub is doing so well, btw, in my opinion). I don’t see that coming from Dat, but I would bet IPFS is going there - at least it already has multiple implementations.

One other thing to consider is that if you goal is to keep the image up for 5, 10, 20 years, there’s actually way more chances it happens on imgur than on your self hosted webserver : one day you’ll be bored of maintaining it, and that’ll be that. A good part of the web from the 2000’ was deleted because we were hosting our blogs on our own servers, until we didn’t. In an ideal world, we would have a p2p web, where content is distributed by users of the site and it stays up for as long as one person seeds it, like the Beaker Browser tried to do with dat, but this is far from what most people use today. For now, the power of self-hosting is more suitably directed at providing apps you will use for yourself than to publish things meant to stay out in the world. Unless of course you’re ready to commit to that, knowing from the get go it will be a challenge.