Also replied to another comment, sounds like this one here: https://opensourcesecurity.io/2024/04/01/xz-bonus-spectacular-episode/
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Sounds like the open source security podcast. Specifically this episode: https://opensourcesecurity.io/2024/04/01/xz-bonus-spectacular-episode/
Kurt and Josh are great, one of my favourites.
What YAML does Terraform use? HCL is similar but different enough to YAML.