I remember when James Randi “debunked” meditation.

Yeah that’s aged well…

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You had a bunch of “America First” movements, protests in favor of the Axis Powers, Hitler being Time’s “Man of the Year”

Hitler even based a lot of the Nazi movement on shit America was literally already doing

They were more likely trying to tell him to STOP smoking

Reminds me of the Big Bang Theory, which was named that as a joke. The story goes that a Catholic Priest pitched the idea and scientists basically laughed, labeling it a “uniquely catholic idea that is more scripture than reality”

Then they proceeded to look into something called “Steady State Universe” to show that Priest how silly his “Big Bang” was…

Apologies were owed when Big Bang turned out to be true, Einstein had himself photographed with the guy even.

Which is why I find it funny that today the Big Bang Theory is not only used as proof against God’s existence by secular communities, but is fiercely objected too by fundamentalist ones.

I hear he’s mute now

is t entirely? or Isn’t entirely?

A real shame, I personally do believe in a force that we can’t yet detect that’s somehow important for life and conciousness…

I hope one day we find it, till then, I won’t lie to anyone. This belief of mine is purely based on conjecture, gut instinct, and experiments I’ve done using good intentions and duct tape (which is to say, none at all)

Edit: Dear downvoters, I’m not saying for a fact this exists, that science points to it, or anything like that. I’m not trying to spread bullshit.

From what I understand, there’s this myth that Nazi Scientists were pardoned because they revolutionized science with experiments too horrible for anyone else to perform, but the data we learned from this was just THAT amazing. (TERFs like to make their own spin on this by saying the genital reconstruction used in gender affirming surgeries today was made by the Nazis)

in reality, no they were just massive racists and America only joined the Allies instead of the Axis Powers because Japan bombed Pearl Harbor, had that not happen we may have joined up with Hitler. So, eh, just grab a few of the doctors with operation paperclip, put em to work getting us to the moon…

From what I understand all Mengele really learned was that if you kill children, they die.

Which I’m not a historian, but I think we already assumed as much…

I remember they actually wrote a book “debunking him” called “100 Authors Against Einstein”

To which, like a total gigachad, he responded. “If I were really wrong, it would have only taken one.”

Yeah it was a typo…

The movement claimed that God made man in his image, therefore man was divine and had been tricked by the illusion that is the material world into creating his own problems and illnesses.

So church members in order to correct this error and cure these mental diseases were required to abstain from substances (anything besides food and beverage basically), as taking them meant you were “reinforcing the delusion that the material world was real.”

This meant people couldn’t take vitamins, caffine, alcohol, medicine (morphine was the exception because morphine was used when the founder originally “discovered the Christian Science power”), and they couldn’t smoke.

No one realized “Hey, you stopped smoking and going to doctors at a time when people believe smoking was good for you and medical science had a high death rate because they still believed in giving pregnant mothers whisky laced with heroin to balance their humors! This is actually saving your life”

Later in life the woman realized it was all bullshit, but her income and fame were based around it so she kept making loopholes in the holy books to say “Oh no it’s okay if I go to the doctor, because… shut up that’s why.”, and would claim that her illnesses late in life were caused by her enemies practicing “Animal Magnetism” on her, and were “So numerous in number that her power alone could not fight them.”

So she had a bunch of people live with her to combat the Animal Magnetism, including live-in chefs who’d make two of her meals… One to present her with for her to say “Oh it’s full of the Mesmer Poison, get rid of it!”, and a second for the chef to say “Look, I cured the poison, see how much fresher it is?”

It absolutely was a typo, everyone thought smoking was good for you, but this crazy lady said “Jesus said we shouldn’t smoke if we wanna awaken our God powers!”

And… people believed her because when they stopped smoking they stopped dying.

Funnily enough, the woman in question used to practice Homeopathy and when coming up with her Christian Science ideas she sought to prove it by replacing the homeopathy meds of someone in her care with fakes. Which of course were just as effective, proving that _Homeopathy doesn’t work he activated his Hamon Breathing and cured himself of Dio’s evil poisons.

I remember the whole “trees communicate” thing, that one’s kinda recent if I remember correctly. Like it was after the Avatar movie came out, which really fanned the flames of ridicule.

Holy shit

“This guy washes his hands, clearly he’s crazy, take him out back; if he dies it’s a mercy killing.”

Was actually said by someone at one point.

Heliocentricism is a good one, the story they teach in school was that “The Pope just didn’t look through Galileo’s Telescope because he believed in Jesus too much!”

In reality other practioneers of the sciences simply couldn’t recreate Galileo’s work and thought it wasn’t worth entertaining, especially since it wasn’t just an idea with evidence against it at the time, but one that was politically messy thanks to the Protestant Reformation…

I really hate it when people oversimplify history, especially to paint any organization in a harsher light than it deserves. (That and if we could get more of certain crowds to realize science is more complicated than just saying “Church bad” that would help a lot…)

Naw, Horseshoe Theory’s definitely real, just talk to some tankies.

I actually had some argue that “LGBT Rights are a distraction from important issues and forcing white values onto other culture and are therefore racist”, unironically. Which myself being a transgender woman, I was not amused by.

I wouldn’t worry too much about it, *NEARLY * every conspiracy theory ties back to Anti-Semitism and I’m not even joking.

Faked Moon Landing? Flat Earth? Holocaust Denial?

“Jews did it bro” - Asshole who insists he’s “Just asking questions”

Edit: Clarified hyperbole

1. I never said the Soul was valid, you were the first one to say that “S-Word”
2. I did read it, it’s just quotes and names, no actual data… It’s hard for me to take seriously what’s essentially about as scientific as Joe Rogan talking to his Nazi of the week
3. “You disagreed with me, therefore you are dumb!” - I no longer see any reason to respond to this discussion.

I never said I was “For” the soul hypothesis, just that the way this read was “Well we know conciousness isn’t magic, so clearly it doesn’t exist at all in any meaningful way!” Which is… a leap at best.

And this answer seems like more materialist apologia masquerading as science. So we don’t exist, and the illusion that we do is so we can tell other people who don’t exist about how we’re not existing? You see why that’s dumb right?

And, how do we know there isn’t a non-physical reality from which this reality is itself an emergent property? That seems more likely than “People don’t REALLY exist”