I think Burnham was referencing Book, not Tyler, when she said she knows what it’s like to lose someone but got him back. Book died during the final events of 10C, but they magically zapped him back into existence, if I recall correctly.
Not sure either, ENT rewatch was some years ago… I think that might’ve been another time version / shapeshifter or something something?
Hah, yes! Or O’Brien, the most important Starfleet officer in history!
As a show with so much promise, I often felt Disco reached for big concepts but never quite managed to get there. It would get bogged down with pathos and dragged out plot lines. Unfortunately, season 5 felt no different. This episode dragged on and on for me. Mol and L’ak had mostly become irrelevant and were completely unnecessary in this episode.
I get the series got axed and additional scenes were shot to round things out. But that random “we’re all hugging” scene? It was weird. And didn’t the actress who played Detmer say their absence was planned and revealing anything would be a big spoiler or something? Well. No, it really wasn’t.
Kovitsch was Daniels? I think at that point of the story, he could’ve been anyone and it wouldn’t have landed. He could’ve been Sloane (not dead after all!) and it would’ve made as much sense and be just as meaningful to the story.
The progenitor plot? With a tick list of “clues” and “challenges” to lead the way, but ultimately we decide your worthiness to reshape the universe as we know it with a geometry puzzle? I can’t even.
Discovery had potential, back in the day, but disappointed year on year. I had hoped this final season would offer redemption, but alas. Decent bunch of actors, but with subpar writing that usually went nowhere coherent. I won’t miss it. Glad it’s done. I hope Paramount learnt some valuable lessons from this and moves things on.
Something about the former Primarch really reminds me of Sarris from Galaxy Quest.
Did anyone else notice that the alien statues in 5x02 looked remarkably similar to the Batarians from Mass Effect?
The Star Trek games I played growing up were 25th Anniversary (the ship battles were too complicated for 11yo me), later on I used my own pocket money and bought Final Unity. The Chodak are still a very cool alien race added to the universe. Loved those frog faces in space suits. :-)
Played and finished Elite Force and Armada. Earl Boehn (RIP) as a main villain was a moment of teenage glee being such a massive T2 and TNG nerd.
Interested in Resurgence, my husband recently played it on his PS5 but I don’t go near that machine. 😂
I was wondering if the “Previously” bit at the start was maybe Eugene Roddenberry, channeling his mum?
Loved the episode. Did I understand correctly that the Betazoids were travelling from planet to planet to find a cure for this rampant emotional telepathic event?
Does that mean T’Lyns powers extended that far?
Or were they secretly hunting for the alien ship? I got a little bit lost with the fast dialog.
On a random note, funny how in ten forward the two guys making out kept inserting themselves in almost every scene.
Also - just wondering how popular the show is. Looking at the drop off in comments week-on-week, I wonder if people have dropped out.
Yeah, all your criticisms sound fair to me. My issues with live-version baby-Hera haven’t changed over the past 5 episodes. I said it before, but I would’ve loved to see Vanessa Marshall try out for the role. Her voice is Hera to me. And Caretaker in the Marvel’s Midnight Suns game, but that’s a different story.
I truly enjoyed episode 5, but can’t escape the fact that I feel sour about episodes 1-4. If episode 5 had been episode 2 (and we condensed 1-4 into 1) that would’ve been much, much better. Just take me to the action, show me ass-kicking Ahsoka, that’s what I’m here for. Not the Ahsoka who apparently went through a difficult time and doesn’t have conviction. What? When?? I know she was shaken up about discovering Anakin’s true identity, but if that caused a deep soul-searching moment, show me that. The series as a whole has suffered quite a lot from “tell, don’t show” where even the “telling” is stilted and flat.
But again, I felt episode 5 gave me hope for the remaining few episodes left.
Weird theory, but where do Force Ghosts go when they’re not “ghosting around” the place? Maybe they go to the World Between Worlds. That would make some kind of story-sense, since Anakin became one.
How did he become one? Let’s gloss over that one, since apparently it’s a long-lost Jedi skill that Qui-Gon rediscovered, passed on to Yoda, who passed it on to Obi-Wan, after Padmé died. So not sure when Anakin was eavesdropping in on that thing, but oh well. That’s a prequel/CW issue, not an Ahsoka issue.
I think Andor’s something special. It’s such a unique show that adds a layer of depth to this universe that we’ve not seen before. Tricky one to use as a comparison for all the other stuff. For me, this series sits quite comfortably next to the latest Mandalorian season. Lots of lore, some CW/Rebels characters and a too-slow, but (hopefully) ultimately entertaining season arc.
Agreed! At first I wondered if they had mixed Lanter’s voice in there somewhere, to blend with Hayden’s during the initial transition. Don’t believe they did, but it was so nice to see a live version Anakin that wasn’t all petulant doom and gloom teenager. A bit of redemption for Christensen here too, which is well deserved in my opinion. The Obi-Wan show didn’t really give him much to work with, but this episode did a lot more.
That’s a very good point, that Filoni is trying to redeem the sequel movies, but I feel that may be a very challenging thing to pull off. Where the prequels were clunky and clumsy movies, they did have a solid overarching plot with clear themes throughout. The sequel movies, unfortunately, have very little overarching themes or plot.
With the New Republic shown to be an ineffective government regarding the response to a possible threat, and the imperial remnants operating within society, in episode 3 and Mando, that thread is becoming clearer as we lead into The Force Awakens. The rise of the First Order may be the most solid attempt at redemption. Other than that? The sequels are just too much of a mess at this stage to connect with, thank you Disney.
A Filoni-led Old Republic era? That may well give him the freedom to let loose.
Regarding dead people speaking, I think I would’ve preferred Force Ghost Anakin instead. We already know he’s out there somewhere, from Return of the Jedi.
Let’s see what this week’s episode will bring, I suppose!
Aw, I feel honoured that my little threads are called “official”! Thank you! 😀
Honestly, Wednesday was a very busy day for me, so didn’t get to watch it until yesterday evening. Thanks for opening the discussion up. My thoughts for the week.
Overall feeling I felt this episode was an improvement over last week’s, but to be honest, given my somewhat scathing thoughts about that one, that wasn’t difficult. There was actually something happening in this one. I’m still feeling conflicted about the overall tone of the show. Ahsoka hasn’t really shown her fun side yet. It’s all very dour and stilted still.
What show am I watching? Are we a Rebels Reunion show or an Ahsoka show? I would love the series to commit to one or the other. We have Hera, Jacen, Sabine, Ahsoka. But, we nearly got them together this episode, for them to be pulled apart yet again. And if we’re going to bring the gang back together, where’s my buddy Zeb? I refuse to believe he’s just hanging around in that bar Mando met him whilst all this stuff is going down. It would’ve felt very natural to bring him into the fold as Hera flew off to go and help her friends.
“Anakin spoke highly of you.” “Funny, he never mentioned you.” This show needs to stop already with the “this person is a mystery reveal”. Who is this evil Sith? How did he know Anakin? Where did he suddenly come from in an era where Luke and Leia were the last hope? Filoni stretched the lore to its limits by sending Ezra to another universe and making Ahsoka a not-Jedi-Jedi to stay faithful to Obi-Wan & Yoda’s conversations. Also, just, enough with the whole “mystery reveal”.
Those plot points have been done to death. In this episode, quite literally because, did Ahsoka just kill Mystery Helmet Guy? And he just… turned to dust? If he was being sustained to such a degree by the Dark Side, then, erm, hello? If this is indeed the end for that baddie, then, that’s disappointing. I have faith in Dave Filoni, but we’re halfway into the season and I feel like we’re still busy getting started.
We’re finally going places Took half the season, but it seems like we’re travelling. Disappointed that Thrawn still hasn’t appeared though, when the trailer first launched I thought we were in for an exciting season. It may still turn exciting, but can’t escape the feeling we’ve wasted a lot of time to get there.
Anakin? I would love for Ahsoka to have a proper character moment with Anakin, aka the child-murderer. Which, erm, not sure how we’re going to gloss over that one. But this very mystical World Between Worlds seems to be letting all sorts of people in lately. Maybe some Loth Wolves installed a revolving door somewhere?
We’ll see where this goes, though. It’s probably the way for Ahsoka to make it to the other universe.
Agency I think my main problem with the show so far, similar to the Kenobi one before it, is that a lot of stuff happens to Ahsoka. She doesn’t take control of the situation or carve out her plans. She’s responding to people, attacks, schemes, but her plan so far hasn’t gone beyond “Let’s go fly there and have a look.”
It feels very inconsistent with her character from before.
Also. Sabine handing over the map just like that? Cartoon-Sabine would’ve kicked her ass over that. No WAY, would she go against Ezra’s sacrifice in that manner? Ezra did everything to get rid of Thrawn and helped end the war. Sabine, with her strong moral compass and iron will, would suddenly go, “Oh yeah, screw it, I miss Ezra so let’s help out these baddies get Thrawn back.”
Unless this was part of the plan she made with Ahsoka all along….
….would’ve been great if there had been even a HINT of that, though, if it were the case.
6 / 10 for me.
Which, is painful. I love these characters, but they all seem to be wandering around looking for the plot. I hope they find it soon.
Oh, now that could be interesting indeed! And much more exciting than my fears about the theory it’s Fallen Ezra. Because I really don’t want that to be true, but feel it will be.
That is SUCH a useful tip. Thank you.
I don’t miss it one bit as a social platform. I just wish that search engines wouldn’t prioritise it as much when I try to find a “how to do….” guide. It’s insane how many Reddit threads (half deleted and otherwise) dominate the results. Just show me a nice webpage please.
Without Adblock detection. And no bloody “how to” videos either. I just want to read it through, thank you.
This one appears to be trending on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dG8SSTGUZBU
Sooo
These two episodes are set before the end of Rebels?
https://gizmodo.com/ahsoka-timeline-star-wars-rebels-disney-plus-lucasfilm-1850767162
I would just like them to finally release the Boimler and Mariner statues that have been on pre-order since October 2023 and for which the release date keeeeeeeeeeps slipping. Q2 2024 was the last we heard, but that’s definitely some time ago. Again.
Not impressed with Exo-6. They have my money (granted, a 25 USD pre-order) and have delivered NOTHING for almost a year now. Original planned release was Q4 2023 back when I ordered.