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  • I didn’t read it? Another amazing assumption. She had seizures. That happened. Jesus Christ.

    If you actually read it you would have read the first paragraph.

    "Patient One was 24 years old and pregnant with her third child when she was taken off life support. It was 2014. A couple of years earlier, she had been diagnosed with a disorder that caused an irregular heartbeat, and during her two previous pregnancies she had suffered seizures and faintings. "

    Diagnosed with irregular heartbeat and had seizures during her last two pregnancies. There risk there is SUPER obvious. The why doesn’t matter, what she did was selfish. Her two kids now have no mother because she wanted a third one.











  • Are those actually banned? From what I can tell, those topics are merely delayed. For example:

    Yes, look into what they are calling critical race theory. Some districts are putting topics such as slavery in the CRT bucket. And look at the things they are saying. The new curriculum included instruction for middle school students that “slaves developed skills which, in some instances, can be applied for their personal benefit.” Are you kidding me?

    But yes, they are delaying others, which is its own issue. A girl gets her period between the ages 10-15 on average. 6th grade is about 12 years old. I don’t understand why they need to push this off at all? It’s education about their body… Yes parents should teach their kids, but there should be general education around this BEFORE it happens, so kids know what to expect, especially if they have apathetic parents.

    On sexual orientation I %100 agree, they are starting this at grade 9, which is 14-15, well into when people will already be in puberty and exploring sexuality. Including being confused about being gay. So again, why are we delaying education until people are already experiencing these things?

    But any topic should be allowed, provided there’s parental consent

    I disagree with this. I don’t think a parent should be allowed to rob a child of a proper education. Things needed to be well-prepared adults ready to face the world should not be taken away based on a parent’s (often time) radical beliefs that may not even align with the child’s own world view.

    I don’t like state governments telling schools what they can’t teach, that’s what school choice is for, and I’ve heard Florida has a strong school choice culture.

    They also do things like ban books, which again is just more delaying/removing of information, which is not what the education system should be doing. But I’m also against school choice, I don’t think if you believe contraceptives are evil that you get to rob your child from educating them on what condoms and birth control are. The same way if they are a flat earther or religion they shouldn’t be able to opt out of earth science or basic biology/evolution.

    So while I’m against the bills (which isn’t relevant since I’m not a Florida resident), I don’t think they’re as disastrous as people claim.

    Is it the end of the world, no. But it very much looks like the start of a slippery slope.


  • However, similar things happen elsewhere, but not to the same extent because usually power is split across multiple large organizations. The closest I can think of is Disney in Florida, which has gotten a lot of autonomy and sway that other organizations just don’t have just because they’re a huge employer and tourist destination.

    Yes, but Disney is just a company. Like the examples you gave, the church can just use it’s money and people to kill anything.

    Are you talking about seminary buildings?

    Yes I am. I grew up on the east coast and never saw these. They are a huge problem, because they promote Mormonism by leveraging schools. I never see a seminary building for any other religion, just LDS. Which shows its not a public service to allow kids to worship, it’s a tool to push that specific religion and normalize it as THE religion.

    I agree on allowing breaks for many activities, but when you have worship centers for a specific religion slapped next to every school, that’s a problem.

    On the laws I agree. You mention a lot of really good ones. You forgot to mention a few that I think are silly as well. Such as the “This is a restaurant not a bar” nonsense and all the laws around that. The fact that the state decides what alcohol comes into the state. If they don’t have something you want, too bad, you can’t order it. The fact that Utah is joining the book banning wave but somehow thinks the Bible is appropriate for children. It’s not.

    Anyways, my point is, it’s clear that Mormon values strongly steer, if not control, policies and the abilty for people to be heard when they vote. Again, I’ll take failed civic/social projects over that any day.

    At the start you said literally run is a strong term. Based on the things both you and I have shown, I stand behind my statement. If a group can overturn the will of the people, they run that state.


  • This whole “both sides” argument is weak. Conservatives being tough on culture war means passing crazy laws, banning books, and banning the education of certain topics. And the liberals what, are against that and start actual education without the government controlling what you can and can’t learn/read.

    What’s actually happening isn’t mundane. Laws are being passed that effect me and mine. They impact me, they’re not just mundane laws.

    If you think banning topics that can be taught in class, like learning about your period and what homosexuality even is, or that there was slavery in America is just mundane then you’re part of them problem. Down playing actual damage being done is supporting the people who are doing the damage.


  • I live in Utah too and the thing you conveniently didn’t mention of how the Mormon church literally runs this state. How numerous things the church doesn’t like are outlawed or crazy restricted. Look at the alcohol laws, gambling laws, look at how a worship center is built next to ever school and they get free time every day to go worship during school hours, look at how the church has paid to overturn propositions that get a majority vote through lobbying. Look at the massive homeless problem that exists in a city that is quite literally built around a multi billion dollar religions main place of worship.

    You complained about unfinished projects and stuff, I’ll take that in a heartbeat.