We’re literally having this conversation because you just can’t accept that not all men deserve to be placed in your generalisation that men = bad.

We are literally having this conversation because you’re hyperdefensive and equate women being cautious of and scared of men with them thinking men are bad.

I’m guessing you’d be scared of a bear, do you think bears are evil? Do you hate bears?

Say you pick the bear because of the bad ones out there, and not because no man is trustworthy.

Literally no one is saying that, you’re shadowboxing.

That will at least clarify that it’s an argument from emotions and not logic, since if you try to break it down statistically this stops making rational sense.

It literally is from logic that you refuse to understand.

Everything I asked, since my first comment, was to stop generalising. Why is this so offensive to you that you had to go this far?

You still don’t get that the issue is that you’re claiming it is generalization when the issue is that women aren’t fucking mindreaders and men often conceal their motives and blend in with more benign men. You have to be cautious around men because you don’t know what you’re getting.

You’re basically proving my point that you’re only listening to yourself and have no empathy for the 9/10 other innocent guys you lump together with your generalising.

Oh, no, I bet it has to be really hard being viewed with distrust because men as a whole behave badly. The problem is that that feeling doesn’t permit you to tell women that they should stop being cautious and that their fears are unreasonable.

You’re once again equating me to the worst men you know. Simply because I defend myself from an undeserved insult for being a man. I can’t tell anyone’s orientation either, but what I know is that there is a close to 0 chance of SA from someone who’s not interested in your gender, which is the main “bear” argument.

The bear argument is about a random man lol. Why do you think it is about you personally?

And of course I’m equating being ostracized and beleaguered by women in general to a punishment, who wouldn’t?

Being cautious around someone is not the same as ostracizing someone.

I’m not interested in them romantically? No, it fucking sucks to be told along the lines of: you’re part of this group which you have no control over, and thus you deserve all the shit we say online about you, oh but don’t worry it’s not applicable to you specifically, we’d just still pick a bear over your kind, is all.

It straight up isn’t about you specifically though, except you’re the type to freak out about it so maybe it is about you. I certainly wouldn’t be willing to have this conversation with you in person, you’re acting aggrieved about women expressing their feelings. Seriously, why don’t you just scream at women to stop feeling the way they feel about men some more, I’m sure that will help things.

It’s also permissive to say I can’t complain about you all picking bear and insinuating we’re all equally as bad as the worst out there.

Permissive of what though? Because I was complaining about men creating a permissive culture around disrespecting and mistreating women.

I’m gay, I’m literally part of the group of men who would never be dangerous to a woman.

Oh buddy. Gay men can be real shitheads to women(I’ve literally been assaulted by a gay man as an incredibly shitty joke, also see: “I can’t be misogynistic, I’m gay!”), and also we can’t tell if someone is gay or bi.

Don’t get me wrong, you’re totally allowed to have fears. But punishing the majority for the mistakes of a minority is literally a war crime

You’re equating people being cautious around you to a punishment.

Also the permissive attitude of the majority of men is what allows a minority to abuse women.

https://youtu.be/-jpmsTLsATs?si=HCnx8o2zne6JFEp9

Having realistic fears around dealing with men does not mean I hate them.

What are you even trying to cope about? Do you identify with the subgroup of men who are dangerous or are you just upset that women aren’t mindreaders so they are cautious around men, and taking it out on women and not the dangerous men who have created the climate of fear and uncertainty?

Why are you continuing to get mad at another strawman?

And not once did you run away calling them all rapists while going to fetch a bear?

Why are you continuing to get mad at this strawman?

You buy the women that are used to dating them flowers and they talk about it for a month, or whatever that bit was

It would require putting himself in the headspace of women. And listening and empathizing with women. Completely unviable for him at this point in time, and will continue to be so long as he values protecting his own fragile masculine position over genuine human connection

Lmao it is incredibly unlikely to run into a polar bear in the mainland US. Much less likely than running into a violent man.

Funny extra, notice how you only focus on the worst men, and the best bear.

Nah we are talking averages and uncertainty that exists in a low information scenario.

You clearly think about men all the time if you have enough time to defend your worthless talking point on lemmy.

Yes, do you think because I don’t sleep with or date men, men and how to interact with men has been purged from my brain? I still need to interact with male coworkers, strangers, acquaintances, friends, metamours, etc. Lmao. Are your forehead veins throbbing right now?

I say you sure are arrogant for assuming any man would be interested in you.

And yes I do hope no one would be burned by getting interested in someone as toxic as you clearly are.

Wait are you equating men with all people here? Lmao.

you’d pick 50/50 odds of literally dying.

Dude you have told people to touch grass and you think running into a black bear means you have a 50/50 chance of dying? Bwahahaha. Why yes, I’d rather startle a black bear than be alone in the woods with a guy.

Touch -and I can not emphasize this enough: Grass.

It’s just a misandrist talking point. Not rational. Purely emotional and made to create dissent and division. It’s inherently offensive to the 9/10 other, innocent men lumped in with the choice.

As we all know women have a “this dude is a rapist” detector and “this dude is an abuser” detector, where we can easily distinguish between men who are threats and men who aren’t. Rape and DV only happen when we are waiting for the detectors to get back from regular maintenance or repair.

Bwahahaha

Oh that’s a good one. Let me get into why it is funny

As someone who doesn’t give a fuck about you or your individual experiences,

I say you sure are arrogant for assuming any man would be interested in you.

The lack of self awareness. Note how these two ideas can exist in his head at the same time.

I say you sure are arrogant for assuming any man would be interested in you.

I just directly said I would prefer if men weren’t. You mean this as some sort of insult but it’d be a relief if actually true!

Also, the idea that this is the best insult you can come up with, the idea of men being uninterested in me. A real poverty of imagination here.

Anyway, thanks for the chuckle.

He straight up didn’t call all men rapists and dangerous, he said:

I feel like women have every right to just give up on us men

I feel like I’d give up on eating pasta if one out of every ten had a big shard of glass in it. Doesn’t take every one having a shard of glass.

Would you let 10 deadly snakes into your home if only 1 would bite you? How about 9?

Anyway while you’re weighing that I’m going to be somewhere else doing lesbianism as someone who is bi but refuses to deal with men’s bullshit.

Comments like this make it seem like you only care about trans people as a cudgel to use against people

They don’t, you’ve fallen for anti-communist disinfo

Hexbear thread dunking on this:

https://hexbear.net/post/2277150?scrollToComments=false

Highlights include

Funny how we constantly get told we support capitalist Russia, yet they never actually provide evidence for that.

I’m not surprised tho as lying about communists seems to be second nature to Western bootlickers

And

i love how that dude makes an absolutely ridiculous assumption, as i’ve never seen a “tankie” deny that current russia is reactionary as fuck, but since he’s saying Bad Thing about The Tankies everyone just goes “hmm yea those tankies amirite? smh”

liberals are fucking idiots, they never have any idea of what they’re actually talking about and just throw around concepts and categories with the level of understanding of a monkey playing with a power tool

And

“We support the Russian Federation’s opposition to US imperialism. We oppose their reactionary government including the state suppression of lgbtq+ people, minority nationalities and ethnic groups, etc. Using these issues as cudgels for US/NATO imperialism hurts all people in Russia, including oppressed minorities, and undermines the progressive nature of those liberation struggles in that country.”

“Smdh tankies are pro-russia homophobes”

Any sources there or do you just lie for fun?

Edit: an article on this kind of behavior:https://redsails.org/false-witnesses/

Hey just so you know, the gitmo prison never closed:

https://www.npr.org/2024/01/11/1223926279/guantanamo-bay-joe-biden-cuba-september-11#:~:text=It was 22 years ago,been no 9%2F11 trial.