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He would call malcom x a fash too.

But don’t forget that MLK was hated by most people during his time, especially white liberals and conservatives. Liberal democrats and conservatives alike seem to have a nasty habit of opposing the current struggles for freedom and equality. If you want to see what people thought of MLK, here is a political comic from the time

Notice the similarities between this and BLM? If you replace the concept of violent civil rights marches with antisemitic pro-palestine protests, you’ve got another instance of a struggle for freedom and a struggle against genocide being defamed while it is currently happening.

The fact of the matter is liberal democrats support all social justice movements but the current one. In 20 years I will cringe at what democrats say about the plight of the Palestinians, knowing that many are opposed to it right now.

This person would 1000% call MLK a left wing fascist, fuck this guy

The pro-palestine protests near me are often organized by jewish orgs, palestinian orgs, muslim orgs, and socialists. I have not seen a hate crime take place at any protest, even though there are people with jewish voice for peace there, or jewish people in the other orgs.

Lmfao, “everyone I don’t agree with is a chatbot pushing propaganda points.” Sorry for not being eloquent. 🤦

Sometimes, I wish I was using chat gpt, it would save me some time and effort responding to people, but usually I’m just on here because of boredom so it doesn’t matter in the end.

You are right about it being confirmation bias, but I am aware of it. I’ve intentionally blocked out family members and former friends over antisemitism, and I’ve realized that once I gained more control over my life, such as by graduating from school and college, and having the ability to not associate with family. I do not currently live in the deep south, but I have a lot of family living in the thick of the bible belt. I no longer talk to them because of their support of cryptofascism. The only people I discuss politics with are close friends, who range from liberal to radical left, people at protests, immediate family as general talk, and random people online in political communities that skew left, or have no particular bias but have strict “no fascism” rules. Other than occasionally keeping tabs on fascists on twitter, I don’t have very much exposure to fascists.

However, as I live in an area where the antisemites have to be very mask-on, and they are counterintuitively pro-zionists. This is because the popular breed of fascism near me is christofascism and christian nationalism. These people want the state of isreal solely because it fulfills a prophecy in the book of revelation. Many of them also want jewish people to be expelled or killed, being literal fascists or hyper-christian. They are both antisemitic and zionists.

But the fact that I have comformation bias in the anecdotes at the beginning and end of what I said is not important.

What I was hoping to point out is a lot of the supposed antisemitism I see is not in fact antisemitic, it’s just antizionist. For instance, “From the River to the Sea, Palestine Will be Free” is often called antisemitic (it is even called hate speech by the ADL), but it is not, it is anti-zionist. Attempts to conflate this phrase used by activists with antisemitism only seeks to attempt to silence them, showing that protests against zionism is walking on egg shells. Calling for an end of apartheid structures that limit the freedom of movement of palestinians to small sections of the state is not calling expelling jewish people, or somehow referring to space lasers, or whatever.

To go to specific examples, there is the van that drove around Harvard with activist’s faces on it labeling them as antisemites. From what I’ve heard through a friend who currently attends Harvard, those are simply anti-zionist activists. Other supposed antisemitic acts during anti-zionist protests at harvard were intentionally spun that way. From what I heard, at a die-in protest, a jewish student walked over the protestors, and one of them supposedly complained to an organizer that they had been stepped on by that student. In response, the organizers forced that student to leave. That friend told me that some local news reports called the protest antisemitic because a jewish student was forced to leave it, but from what he told me it was for a valid reason, being that the organizers wanted to keep their protesters safe from being stepped on.

The anti-zionists I know are not antisemitic, and I have not seen them be antisemitic.

Sometimes I see people say a statement is antisemetic, such as “From the River to the Sea, Palestine Will be Free,” or something else with a similar meaning. That is not an antisemetic statement. It is against the state, not against the people, nor is it against the religion or ethnicity, and the two are not equal. Any attempt to equate the two is an attempt to silence people who are against the actions of the state, which is usually what I end up seeing.

Sure, you can say something that is both, but I almost never see people do this.

I dont feel that a two state solution would actually fix things. Creating a Palestinian state would be incredibly difficult, it’s why attempts to do so have failed. Israel would object to all but the most disfavorable terms for the Palestinians, and as seen in the past, Palestinians will object to disfavorable terms.

Forcing a two state solution on them will not work either, wherever state lines have been drawn in the past there has been conflict because of those borders.

A Palestinian state would also give some legitimacy for Israel to create conflicts with them, and due to their hyper-militization and incredible intelligence capabilities (much less, the capabilities of the USA helping them out) would certainly make any conflicts with the fledgling nation. There will be no peace when there is official means for the two sides to fight amongst them selves, especially when adding religion, border disputes, and Israel’s history of oppression.

Ideally, as an anarchist, I’d love a no state solution, as it would be impossible for state mechanisms to oppress any group of people with no state. But I think that is not geopolitically feasible because states like states, and creating a stateless society would harm the legitimacy of states themselves.

Realistically, I think a one-state solution is necessary, but not in the sense of making it an ethnostate for any one group. We would need to follow in the footsteps of attempts to do similar tasks, be it the de-apartheidization of south africa, as well as from the horrors America did in the wake of reconstruction and their colonial expansion, abd various other former setteler-colonial countries. And we should certainly learn from the mistakes of the past. Speaking as an American, with an American-centric view, I think the best way forward is decolonization.

Israel is rightfully concerned by becoming the minority, they’ve done unspeakable evils to Palestinians, and many Israelis think they are beyond forgiveness, that they are too far gone. Combine that with a long history of minority jewish groups being oppressed by many states all over the world, and their anxiety on this is very understandable.

However, as long as there is oppression, there will not be peace. Putting a minority group on par with a majority group gives an unequal advantage to the minority, but letting the minority group get trampled is just as bad. I think that in order to protect the religious rights, the state must be secular, and it must have inalienable rights enshrined to everyone equally.

I think the only way to lower tensions is for Palestinians to forgive Israelis, and the only way for that to happen is for Israel to make up for their crimes. State leaders should be prosecuted, war criminals should be prosecuted, and Israel should fund the repairs needed to provide housing to Gazans, and Palestinians who fled. Palestinians should be able to return to their homelands, and if their homes still exist, they should return to them. If this involves kicking out an Israeli, the state should fund housing for them.

This isn’t a complete plan by any means, and I don’t want to insinuate that it is. This is just my statist idea on how peace could be achieved, even if I believe that a stateless anarchist revolution would do waaaay better.

Free Palestine. FTRTTS

I mean, its not like they weren’t bombing the shit out of gaza in the first place, killing hundreds every day. I’d be surprised if Israel could bomb gaza any harder than they already are.