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  • It “stems” from a deliberate effort to conflate them by the likes of the ADL .

    Your article itself says:

    Police now believe this was a Russian-inspired destabilisation operation rather than a home-grown intimidation campaign.

    Your article itself also says that the police are the source for this assertion, and goes on to say

    In June, the fatal police shooting of a 17-year-old driver of Moroccan and Algerian descent in a Paris suburb sparked almost two weeks of riots across the country in which schools, buses and police stations were torched, shops looted, mayors assaulted and police attacked in nightly clashes. The violence, which did not specifically target Jews, was fuelled by widespread resentment of perceived police racism.

    And if that weren’t enough, it’s already demonstrated that expressing support for Palestine is being conflated with antisemitism.

    The government initially banned pro-Palestinian demonstrations

    So the government bans support for Palestine, the police enforce that ban, and the police say antisemitism is rising among young Muslims.

    All this from the same article, that you posted. Very weak sauce.


  • Huge resources have been devoted to tracking down people, mostly anonymous and with little reach, over speech that authorities interpreted as supporting Hamas, the letter notes. By late November, 269 investigations had been opened and 86 indictments filed.

    “It is quite amazing the number of criminal investigations, when it comes to Palestinian citizens of Israel, most of them completely anonymous, many of them almost with no audience,” Sfard said. “The gap between that and the freedom and impunity for those who advocate all kinds of things – ethnic cleansing, killing civilians, bombarding civilian areas, and even genocide – doesn’t square up, and that’s something for the authorities to explain.”

    This right here. Don’t let anyone tell you Israel is not an apartheid state with separate sets of rules based on who you are.


  • It’s hard to accept that Israel has the same kind of right to it as Palestinians.

    Every displaced Palestinian has a home address they were forced out of, and had his home stolen by someone who felt that being Jewish gave them a right to be present in the land (sure) but also to a particular parcel of land that already belonged to particular individuals.

    Zionists will tell you that most of the land was acquired legitimately. That’s an exaggeration, but some certainly was. Enough of it was outright stolen to make hundreds of thousands of refugees. I’m a one stater; there is enough room for all in the region. To the Zionist, it isn’t about a right to be there. It’s about the supposed right to dominate the land through demographic control - i.e. ethnic cleansing.



  • There are some aggressively snarky lefties on here. Funny enough I felt that way more when looking at it from a different instance, but I guess internally it’s not as much of a thing because the tone is more relaxed internally, imo. Which is an interesting phenomenon. Maybe has to do with how people talk when they feel they’re in their in-group vs when they feel they have to have their defenses up.


  • Can you be more specific about the downsides?

    I joined this instance because I was looking for a lemmy instance and to be on the fediverse. I mean I can still do that on a different instance, so if that’s the way you decide to go it isn’t the end of the world.

    I guess the core group has its motivations that are not necessarily shared by every user, although presumably our ideals are aligned. This is the first I’m hearing that the association with Lemmy is incidental.

    Whether I’d stick around or not, I’m not sure. One thing I like about the fediverse is that it presents a real shot at being a free-culture alternative to corporate social media, and I think losing federation with one of the most successful instances would be a loss for that movement.

    If you do defederate, would you continue to use Lemmy as the software for the community? Being able to use the mobile apps is convenient and honestly that’s probably the thing that has me logging in as much as I do.







  • From this garbage article

    The chanting, I think, calling for intifada, global revolution, [is] very disturbing,” Magill said during questioning. “I believe at minimum that is hateful speech that has been and should be condemned.

    Intifada means “resistance.” Every occupied people has a right to resist. Except, apparently, Palestinians.

    … grilled Gay on Harvard’s Middle East Studies courses, which she claimed included “false accusations that Israel is a racist, settler colonialist, apartheid state

    Well, it is. No amount of trying to conflate support for human rights with antisemitism is going to change that.

    If this is what they mean by “hate” nobody should be surprised that lots of people aren’t buying it.