All countries are a few steps away from this type of shit. Nation states may have been a good departure from monarchies but have very much proven to be trash; the “cultures” and “ethnicities”, etc. they proclaim to protect seem very much to be bullshit money-making schemes at best. A serious shift away from vertical economic and social hierarchies is the only solution. But deprogramming the world is not going to be easy.

Tried Sync, Liftoff, Connect and Lemmotif (I think that’s all the free ones on the playstore as of August '23), and I am always preferring Jerboa.

Ayran.

That could very well be true, I could very well be in “good old days” haze mode because I remember being quite enamoured with the concept of it and content on it, as it felt like there was literally a thriving community around everything you could think of and it still felt “safe” compared to places like 4chan and web-sites like ogrish, etc.; places which intrigued but felt “dirty” in comparison. I think I also grew to hate it as I suddenly felt the reality of other people’s hate hit. I also learned basic photoshop among other things due to the communities there. I guess they still exist and I’ve become more bitter and triggered by the slightest indication of the socio-political blind spots that I perceive in people.

I guess there is a similar positive vibe I feel here too, as it feels like the whole decentralisation thing is worth a lot.

I think it started in the comments, it felt as if the self-reflexive nature of the humour became less self-aware and what once were jokes in the voice of and at the expense of more bigoted philosophies were becoming actually serious comments propping up those laughed-at philosophies.

The left-wing echo chamber became a right-wing echo chamber and as such there was a lot more blatant racism and way way more cryptoracism directed at minorities and people of non-white origin.

Where before I felt that (on the whole) the news and temporary-culture subreddits (memes and the like) abhorred non-acceptance, suddenly that became the norm and the accepted tone shifted to one tinged with a heavily closed-off and conservative outlook; white elitist liberalism was as left-wing as it suddenly went.

My perception is that the voting and karma system where once felt egalitarian and more democratic was suddenly found to be a tool to show where the power seemed to lay.

Dissent was met with hordes of downvotes and basically snuffed out. Whether it was a shift in the userbase or bots suddenly becoming very active, it really shifted up the confidence of the more single-minded user.

I think the best thing about reddit was the comments and the ability to see how people in the actual industries and in the know of articles and posts would give great and insightful info, this felt lessened.

I feel the thing that was least effected were the smaller but active niche interest and hobby communities, and what I hope lemmy starts having more of.

So was reddit a long long time ago. I watched and felt it shift to the centre the heavily to the right. Conservatives destroy everything in the world. I don’t doubt your favourite communitues will start heavily skewing right soon enough.

Seethe big humourless racist-man.

Homophobes and racists should not exist, prejudice is cultural and a lot of the time revolves around socio-economic reality. Even in the richest western countries homophobia is still a problem, and not just in the minority communities that are fucked 6 ways to Sunday for the most part anyway. Creating boogeymen is what cultures do, and just as religious people create gay boogeymen; in the west, white people create non-white boogeymen.

Trauma is universal. Don’t be a bigot!

It’s a racist-off folks!

I’m satirising your own shitty position, even if unsuccessfully. You seem to be set on missing that point out of anything you’re saying.

I don’t think it has to be a choice and both actually need to happen. It sounds like you just want to continue eating meat despite everything you know.

Also the ethics of killing sentient creatures for the pleasure of taste aside, the problem is one, as you said of economy and scale of industry, which compounds both the natural effects and the cruelty, to not only the slaughtered but the slaughterer and the consumer too. What we’re both saying is the capitalist system is inherently shit for our environments, but I believe that killing animals for our pleasure is also bad for our psyches.

I like Alien more than Aliens.

Ah, so the day you see mosques hanging lgbt flags isn’t the day you respect blah blah blah. Stop kidding yourself, face your own prejudice before you start spewing your hate. I fucking hate religion with a passion, but you know what I hate more? Racist and nationalist idiots who are blind to their own prejudice. Homophobia is as much a cancer to the world as is your shitty prejudiced world view. Don’t use other people’s prejudice to exercise your own. Fuck your hate.

Search lgbtq mosque on google you lazy twat. Also I think the fact you don’t see muslims doing this that and the other says more about you than muslims. The blind prejudice in these comments makes you seem like idiots.

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Nah, I’m talking about “white people” not pink race. Also well done for both towing the racist line and not getting a joke. Bravo Eugh-person.

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The point you seem to be missing is if they can’t sell as much meat they won’t produce as much. So the most the consumer can do is stop eating meat; when sales go down, production will have to follow.

Meat-eating has a heavy cultural component and industry follows culture, but the problem is that industry also tries to create culture to grow, it’s the way capitalism works. So as a consumer in the age of information you have to be hyper aware of your own personal culture, and see how much your actions are a result of your own convictions versus effective advertising and indoctrination from your environment, family, etc.

People are educated to not learn too much.

I’m not arguing for anything. Just saying what I see.