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The fact it was even close is ridiculous. She’s the most terrible MP and PM we’ve ever had and yet she got a large number of people to vote for her.

There’s something in the water over there.

I don’t see how that makes them vulnerable though. I can’t see the reform voters going back to the conservatives so reform are going to continue to split the conservative vote forever.

A recount is called if one of the sides requires one. Obviously if you only had a difference of 10 votes, it’d be daft not to demand recount, but technically it only happens if a candidate requests one.

Remember the votes are technically recounted already. They are counted three times, by three separate people, who don’t know what the other two people have found as results, so they cannot be influenced by their number. If all three people get the same answer, the count is probably correct, discounting incredibly bad luck, which is statistically unlikely.

If a recount is requested then three new people perform the task just to discount the possibility of collusion.

Oh good, so now Truss can now piss off too the US and moan about the apparent conspiracy that was against her all she likes, and it won’t inconvenience her constituents anymore.

And of course no one in the US will really care, because will have no idea who the hell she is.

The reason a lot of people voted against it was that there was a concern that if it was implemented the government would consider themselves to have taken action and would just shut down any talk about proportional representation by arguing that we already had it. Even though we wouldn’t have.

The theory was that by not voting for the weak source option the idea of proportional representation could be floated at a later date, and to be honest I actually agree with the analysis.

What an utterly moronic stance that stems totally from your complete lack of understanding of what was actually offered.

Proportional representation was never on the table, what was offered was single transferable vote, which would keep the first past the post system but add the option to transfer your vote to another candidate if your preferred candidate lost. There was never proportional representation stop with the false narrative.

If I was a conservative voter, I’m a bit unclear about why I’m supposed to be more scared of Labour winning by a lot, any more than I would be by Labour just winning at all.

The message from the conservatives seems to be that majorities are bad and super majorities are super bad. Conveniently forgetting they had an 80 seat majority until they biffed it up.

I see it like this. We are infinitely more likely to get left-wing policies from a centralist government, than left-wing policies from an ultra-nationalist right wing government.

So saying they’re all the same is a bit disingenuous. Yes Labour are not what they used to be, but then again neither of the Tories, and that is really the problem we need to deal with right now.

Seems like a daft idea to change sides right at the 11th hour. Their readers tend to have a certain amount of momentum to their thinking, you need to slowly work up to a tonal shift.

We’ve got a few more hours left. I reckon that at least time for one more classic screw up.

The problem here is that any government that wins an election is disinclined to change the system that resulted in their victory.

Reform definitely wouldn’t do it.

Honestly think that the only way that we will get electoral reform is if Lib Dems become the official opposition and they really push Labour on it. The daft thing being that if they actually introduced electoral reform Labour would practically win every time, albeit with a smaller majority, not that it would make any difference to them.

That’s right it’s someone else’s fault.

Future politician right here

I see what works and what does not. Thatcher was a mixed bag, better than Johnson :)

Do you know your politics? Thatcher destroyed economies in the north of England. People really hated her, and with good reason. Once Boris Johnson was out of politics everyone stopped caring about him.

I love the idea that the conservatives are trying to put across the narrative that in some way he is going to refuse to do any work after Friday 6:00 p.m. no matter what.

Sor, Russia launched a nuclear attack against the UK what should we do? Put it on my desk, I’ll deal with it on Monday.

He’s also really stupid but gets away with it because he kind of sounds intelligent.

At one point he was going around putting little notes on people’s desks telling them to get back to work and stop working from home. How are they going to read that Mogg, telepathy?

I’m sure some of it he plays up, but he really does live in his own little bubble without much exposure to the real world.

I think everyone’s just rather hoping that they won’t have to do that. Let’s just see how the election goes shall we we can have a rebellion later if required.

It’s easy to agree with them, none of their proposals have to be tempered by the reality of being possibly implemented. They can promise the world and they know it’s fine because they’ll never have to deliver same with Reform, but just left-wing rather than right.

I would like to see their policies have some kind of relationship with practical reality. That includes the realization that sometimes you need to build nuclear power stations, sometimes trees need to be cut down for infrastructure projects, and occasionally you have to do things people don’t like.

For example we need more housing, that’s going to cut into the environment and will necessitate building on old green belt land. They can’t just be against it, that’s not a practical response so I’d like to see a nuanced understanding of the topic rather than a blanket “no more building”

It was actually quite funny, the other day a van came around giving out vote labour signs, and it was like the adult version of an ice cream van. I’m glad there’s so much Labour support in my constituency but I’ve never seen it before. Normally there’s one or two vote labour signs quite a lot of vote conservative signs but a lot of people don’t put anything up.

This year it’s virtually all vote labour, or nothing, and very little nothing.

The greens really shot themselves in the foot around here because they opposed the building of a wind farm. What Green MP opposes Green energy?

It was by design. The problem is that when you get former BNP members, they say and do racist things. But who could have possibly foreseen that outcome?

I wish the greens would come up with some kind of coherent policy. On literally anything at all.

Their manifesto is basically just “we don’t like things that destroy the environment” which isn’t a bad, but it’s also not exactly compatible with the modern world.

They don’t like HS2 for example because it might harm some trees. I would love it if we can somehow figure out a way to build magic hover trains that fly over all of the foliage, but since that haven’t been invented I think cutting a few trees down is an acceptable compromise for progress.