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The fediverse architecture was built from the beginning to allow instance-by-instance exercise of discretion to mute any systemic effects that could take over the network as a whole.

This was I think oriented toward limiting swarming behavior from trolls, but I think it also applies to AI bots.

Right now it seems that the Fediverses main protection is that it just isn’t a juicy enough target for wide scale spam and bad faith agenda pushers.

If you ask me they are already here right now, but I think it’s not the architecture of the fediverse, but the judgment of individual mods that have let us down in this case.

Sorry but nothing was taken out of context. Your brother’s unjust experience being thrown in jail is terrible, but it doesn’t make it more right for Hunter Biden to have to go to jail. That’s eye-for-an-eye. If what you really mean is Hunter being frivolously prosecuted was miscarriage of justice, you could say that.

But it sounds like you’re specifically mad about the act of pardoning but you were 100% fine with him being jailed. You’re welcome to edit your original comment to clarify that you support the pardon, if that’s what you really meant this whole time.

Also it’s funny you mention the Daily Show here, because I did watch that episode. That clip said (1) Biden said he wouldn’t pardon originally, (2) in the news cycle context of Trump nominees, Dems could have lost moral high ground on law and order and (3) made fun of the 11 years timeline. It didn’t recount any specifics on crimes, real or imagined, extensive or otherwise.

I think it’s to neutralize arguments that this is specifically precedent setting. It’s actually working within the margins of established precedent, which is the opposite of what everyone is saying, and it’s why Trump is relevant here.

CIA starts pushing for regime change

And this is your reason why Biden could have restored abortion? Just trying to make sure I’m following how this connects to the original point.

I had a brother who was an accessory to a crime at 17 and went to prison for three years at 18, and that experience makes me viscerally angry that Hunter Biden is going to skate just because he’s a member of the lucky sperm club. This is

I’ve never understood the mindset of “I suffered so you should too”. The most convoluted example in recent member was “I worked hard for my degree so we shouldn’t forget student loans.”

I don’t like this way of thinking because it’s about eye-for-an-eye justice and it’s not interested in facts. Such as the fact that nobody ever serves jail time for Hunter Biden’s offense.

I’m sorry for your brother, our justice system is broken. But of all the takeaways, “keep Hunter Biden in jail” is to me a bizarre conclusion to pull from that.

The comments in this thread are completely insane. Nobody remembers anything, so let’s check in on the history of pardons:

Bill Clinton pardoned actual criminal Marc Rich.

George H.W. Bush pardoned actual criminals associated with Iran Contra.

George W. pardoned Scooter Libby for obstructing a CIA investigation.

Trump pardoned Joe Arpaio who did racial profiling in contempt of court.

Trump is about to pardon everyone from Jan 6th.

Ford pardoned Nixon and Andrew Johnson pardoned basically the entire confederate south.

So if you’re going to stand here and say that Hunter Biden’s pardoning is a singularly unique, precedent-setting moment in American history signalling the downfall of democracy? I’m going to hand you a bouncy ball and some orange slices and tell you to go play in the corner. You are not a serious person.

Edit: And for the dipsticks here who think a “pre-emptive” pardon is new… Nixon’s pardon was pre-emptive. So you’re only like 50 years and 3 months out of date on that talking point. Oops.

That was to stop investigations writ large, it was not specific to Ukraine.

You might as well say Joe Biden pardoned his son for any crimes he commited on the moon. Or for being one of the definitely-real 2000 Mules, or for helping manufacture Covid in Wuhan.

He’s pardoned from all of those too. Which means he did them all, right? Biden is promoting all those conspiracies too!

it was also the minimum they could convict him with in hopes to stop the investigations before they implicated the president

Literally what are you talking about. This wouldn’t have stopped future investigations, and unless you’re suggesting Biden held Hunter Biden’s hand and helped him grasp the pen that checked that box, there’s no sense in which he was implicated.