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  • i_have_no_enemies@lemmy.worldtoWorld News@lemmy.world•Afghan schoolgirls are finishing sixth grade in tears. Under Taliban rule, their education is overEnglish
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    6 months ago

    very first hadith he quotes is da’eef (weak)

    According to whom?

    i don’t care what ‘Ashraf Ali Thanvi’ has to say

    Ashraf Ali Thanwi (often referred as Hakimul Ummat[a][5] and Mujaddidul Millat[b] (19 August 1863 – 20 July 1943) was a late-nineteenth and twentieth-century Sunni scholar, jurist, thinker, reformist and the revival of classical Sufi thought from Indian subcontinent during the British Raj,[6][7] one of the chief proponents of Pakistan Movement.[5] He was a central figure of Islamic spiritual, intellectual and religious life in South Asia and continues to be highly influential today.

    clearly he has done his homework and he holds good amount of authority and credibility.

    also the wiki page for the university mentions about the doccumentation

    Also even in that time you just couldn’t make any girl a slave, this was only for the prisoners of war, you were supposed to share your food and wealth with them and help them in tough works, I am not saying that having a slave is even remotely justified today, but what i am saying is that there is a lot more nuance to it

    please see the following link Recommendations VS LAW (The recommendation is to set a slave free for slapping, but the LAW is an owner will not be punished even if he kills his slave)

  • i_have_no_enemies@lemmy.worldtoWorld News@lemmy.world•Afghan schoolgirls are finishing sixth grade in tears. Under Taliban rule, their education is overEnglish
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    6 months ago

    not true

    However, some scholars who interpret Islam as not allowing women to leave the house also interpret it to mean not allowing them to go to school.

    These scholars might take this verse about the family of the Prophet to mean that this is the ideal example to follow for all women:

    Koran 33:33:

    Settle in your homes, and do not display yourselves as women did in the days of ˹pre-Islamic˺ ignorance. Establish prayer, pay alms-tax, and obey Allah and His Messenger. Allah only intends to keep ˹the causes of˺ evil away from you and purify you completely, O members of the ˹Prophet’s˺ family!

    Islam has onerous rules about female segregation and these could be used by folks to prevent girls from going to school. Aisha tried to circumvent the rules regarded segregation by using the adult breastfeeding loophole to make people her mahram.

    Here’s the origin story of adult breastfeeding:

    Hadith:

    A’isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported that Sahla bint Suhail came to Allah’s Apostle (may peace be upon him) and said: Messenger of Allah, I see on the face of Abu Hudhaifa (signs of disgust) on entering of Salim (who is an ally) into (our house), whereupon Allah’s Apostle (ﷺ) said: Suckle him. She said: How can I suckle him as he is a grown-up man? Allah’s Messenger (ﷺ) smiled and said: I already know that he is a young man 'Amr has made this addition in his narration that he participated in the Battle of Badr and in the narration of Ibn 'Umar (the words are): Allah’s Messenger (ﷺ) laughed. Reference : Sahih Muslim 1453a https://sunnah.com/muslim:1453a

    Aisha having to go to such extremes to make people mahram for her shows that segregation was a really cumbersome problem and would possibly restrict the ability of women to leave the home to get an education.

    The other wives of Mohammad were not onboard with this adult breastfeeding loophole and these verses were lost according to Aisha:

    Hadith:

    It was narrated that 'Aishah said: “The Verse of stoning and of breastfeeding an adult ten times was revealed1, and the paper was with me under my pillow. When the Messenger of Allah died, we were preoccupied with his death, and a tame sheep came in and ate it.”

    Grade: Hasan

    Reference : Sunan Ibn Majah 1944 https://sunnah.com/ibnmajah:1944

    In my opinion Islam doesn’t promote critical thinking regardless of gender. Click here for more on that.

    Mohammad called women deficient in intelligence over rules that he himself had cooked up in this hadith:

    Hadith:

    Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri: Once Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) went out to the Musalla (to offer the prayer) of Id-al-Adha or Al-Fitr prayer. Then he passed by the women and said, “O women! Give alms, as I have seen that the majority of the dwellers of Hell-fire were you (women).” They asked, “Why is it so, O Allah’s Messenger (ﷺ) ?” He replied, “You curse frequently and are ungrateful to your husbands. I have not seen anyone more deficient in intelligence and religion than you. A cautious sensible man could be led astray by some of you.” The women asked, “O Allah’s Messenger (ﷺ)! What is deficient in our intelligence and religion?” He said, “Is not the evidence of two women equal to the witness of one man?” They replied in the affirmative. He said, “This is the deficiency in her intelligence. Isn’t it true that a woman can neither pray nor fast during her menses?” The women replied in the affirmative. He said, “This is the deficiency in her religion.”

    Reference : Sahih al-Bukhari 304 https://sunnah.com/bukhari:304

    A muslim group like the Taliban could use this hadith to say that resources should not be wasted on women and that boys should be educated and women should be confined to the home to carry out household chores which are more in line with their level of intelligence.

    In summary, girl’s education is not prohibited directly but the segregation/hijab/hadith denigrating women’s intelligence can allow some muslim groups leeway to restrict their education.