lol I was gonna try and continue the joke but i went to look up the lyrics and this amused the shit out of me. It’s apparently more popularly known as “that song from star trek enterprise” than as a rod stewart song!

Thank you for taking the time to respond, I realized very quickly that I am FULLY out of my depth with this conversation haha. You all are very thoughtful and knowledgeable.

It’s fascinating seeing the responses to this from you all who obviously know a lot about philosophy. Coming at it from a layman’s perspective, and not really knowing who David Hume was, the science definitions bit was all I could really understand and I interpreted it the way that you say it could have been written. I’m now wondering if just placed my own preconceptions about the bits that I did understand onto the author without really considering the rest.

That’s fair. But the idea of approaching the universe from a standpoint of not being able to truly “know” is kind of the basis of all science isn’t it? We can have evidence of something, maybe even enough evidence to make reliable, repeatable predictions in the context of our infinitely short existences, but it will forever and always be transient knowledge. Nothing in the universe is static and unchanging forever.

Being that this is a Star Trek post I’ll just add this.

Lt. Cmdr. Data: “Sir, our sensors are showing this to be the absence of everything. It is a void without matter or energy of any kind.”

Commander Riker: “Yet this hole has a form, Data; it has height, width…”

Lt. Cmdr. Data: “Perhaps. Perhaps not, Sir.”

Captain Picard: “That’s hardly a scientific observation, Commander.”

Lt. Cmdr. Data: “Captain, the most elementary and valuable statement in science, the beginning of wisdom, is, “I do not know”. I do not know what that is, Sir.”

Clearly she just hadn’t had her coffee yet! On a serious note though I have to agree with @Corgana@startrek.website. The evolving definition of “medical death” as more of a logistical necessity than anything is something that I never really thought about before.

Janeway apologist! (/s)

“lopsided” font plate was almost a badge of honor back in the day lol because it meant that you had a front mount intercooler that needed air (and if you did the offset plate without an FMIC you were ridiculed endlessly for being a buffoon)

Unironically this movie is in my top 5 favorite trek movies. It counts.

The Orville got MUCH less satirical in season 2 and even more so in season 3. There are still jokes for sure but I would struggle to call any of it mean spirited. There’s even this old home video TOS skit that Seth MacFarlane and his friend’s did in high school. I assume Seth or someone let the writers off their leashes when they didn’t get sued by Paramount in Season 1.

The green hand? That’s the hand of Apollo. The actual Greek god Apollo. TOS got weird lol.

I went in to this show expecting not to like it, that it was just going to make fun of something I loved for mass market appeal. I’ve never been so happy to be so wrong. This whole show is a love letter to Trek. I’m sad that it’s leaving but also really glad that it ended up being worth watching.

I wish I had something more to add to this. I saw this when you posted and thought surely someone more creatively minded than I would chime in. Just want to say thanks for taking the time to write this up, it makes you think about how many other one off deux ex machina type races that Star Trek likes to throw out there. The Organians, Talosians, whatever they decided Trelane is, the Douwd, the list goes on and on. It’s quite fortunate for the rest of civilization that these omniscient beings seem to stick to themselves.

This is almost the exact experience I had playing Elite Dangerous in VR one time. I had my HOTAS mounted to the arms of my office chair so the whole setup could swivel. One day I was sitting in orbit over a planet researching a route or something. Ship sounds going in the headphones, comms coming in every now and then, then out of nowhere for just a brief moment I was in space flying that ship. I wish so badly that I could extend that feeling.

Same. I love any of their “infrastructure” type videos. One of my favorites is when their storage server almost kicked the bucket and they showed the unimaginably stressful recovery process.

All they did was offer an opinion, chill.