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Cake day: June 12th, 2023

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  • This is what I was responding to, and I could swear you wrote it (emphasis mine):

    Still shouldn’t be pretending that crusty old useless institutions have anything of value to add.

    So are you even sure what point you are trying to make? You say they can’t add value, I suggest they can, and your response is that just because they can doesn’t mean they do, and…yeah? But what does that have to do with your original point? Do we need to start over?

    Or I can engage on your new point. It is valuable for the Catholic Church to change their stance, and that value is not diminished by the fact that they had to, as you say, be dragged kicking and screaming. If their old view was harmful and their new view is less harmful, then that has value, and based on their reach, substantial value that could translate into a better overall quality of life for many, many people.

    Whats not valuable is shitting all over anyone who wasn’t as quick to be as awesome as you are. You’re just spreading poison. No one is asking you to admire the Catholic Church, least of all me, but there is nothing at all wrong with speaking supportively about a good thing, even if it is too late and not enough.

    You hate the catholic church - got it, so do I. You wish they didn’t exist, well ditto but guess what they fucking do. Complaining about their existence on a thread about them making a tiny bit of progress is just high school edgelord shit.