Never. Not being started is its definition itself

Unless you make it relative to something else. Now is the future of before, and before was the future of a earlier before

Thank you, I didn’t notice the typo!

Italians where also the ones that invented the republic, so what?

Fascism was and will always be a disgrace in Italian history, but maybe you should research Piazzale Loreto to see how much people ended up liking fascism in the end.

Of course there are extremist idiots in Italy like in any other country, but Italy official position on it was made very clear.

Even making a fascist group or association is literally a crime in Italian law.

This doesn’t change that the current situation is very bad of course, but right wing populism and fascism are not nearly the same thing, even if one could lead to the other

To be exact, there is a difference between insult and defamation

I’m not too sure about the technicalities either, so I’m not sure if insulting is also a problem.

But declamation requires saying something false to ruin the other person’s reputation, and it’s actually a crime even against normal people

After WW2 italian socialist and communist parties where between the strongest ones in non USRR europe (if not the number one), but let’s just spout random nonsense for no reason

While the extreme right wing never disappeared, they were as much as a niche as the extreme left.

The country stayed between the left and the center until well into the 90s when a moderate right became more prominent and started to be closer to a 50/50 split

The general right wing radicalization we’re seeing now is way more recent and it’s hardly a phenomenon exclusive to Italy.

I totally agree that the current Italian government is ridiculous and that this problem with extreme right wing populism is becoming very serious in most western countries, Italy included.

But comparing this to a culture ingrained love for fascism when fascism didn’t last for even 1% of Italian history and culture is just asinine and ignorant.

This kind of attitude is ironically very similar to the racism you’re trying to criticize

Yeah, but the admin clarified in some replies that the moderation problems and possibility of receiving ads are already enough to choose to defederate. They didn’t give the absolute certainty but basically made their intentions clear.

But I agree with you, most people wanted to get a clear message against it and not just a “if that happens we will very likely defederate”.

I still think both approaches are fine, it’s good to decide by ethics and it’s good to wait and decide by rationality too. No wrong choices, it’s just a matter of preference

They explained the situation very well, and it’s not exactly as you described it.

Thread is outside the fediverse now, so there is literally nothing to defederate.

And they already basically admitted that in case of threads federating, they would defederate.

It was one of the few instances (if not the only one) to put down exactly what practical problems federating would cause instead of simply taking an ethical stance or regurgitating the usual nonsense EEE argument.

But people wanted an immediate, strong and ethical stance (which is also understandable), so they didn’t like the wait and they didn’t care about an objective analysis of pro and cons

I don’t know what people are smoking, maybe it’s too much heat, but air conditioning is very common and normal here in Italy too.

I don’t know what a cooling center is, but there is AC everywhere, and when there isn’t it’s a choice of the owner to avoid installing it.

Also it’s not the first time we reach similar temperatures sadly. We get around 40°C basically every year. The south of Italy is clearly on a very high and uncommon peak, tho.

The situation is different in other countries like Germany, northern France or England. Until a few years ago they never needed AC at all so most homes don’t have it and it’s not even that easy and immediate to have it installed

I completely switched to lemmy for my random scrolling. But the main community for a game is still there so sometimes I keep lurking that subreddit only (exclusively from pc)