Fucking thank you. When i tried to say that this current war had some historical context of US/nato meddling, i was called a tankie.
I don’t even care for or support either side, i simply said it has a historical context, the same as the 7 october attacks in Israel had a historical context.
No, you can’t give context. China bad! /s
On a serious note, reading a while back about what happened during the opium wars was horrendous. And also finding out that South Korea was governed by murderous fascists until very fairly recently, while the US was supporting the South Korean regime was also an eye opener to me.
Yes, you’re right, the US has shut down so much positive change in the middle east. It seems like the other day that i read about how the US effectively destroyed the democratic Iranian government, and installed a puppet religious fundamental government.
I suppose it makes sense for the US to impose a fundamentalist government, they just want the middle east to be like themselves
And yet people will argue that the US is being charitable and concerned about a justified ( in my opinion) blockade of a major shipping route.
South Africa places Israel’s actions since October 7 in the context of a history of “apartheid, expulsion, ethnic cleansing, annexation, occupation, discrimination, and the ongoing denial of the right of the Palestinian people to self-determination” … “during its 75-year-long apartheid, its 56-year-long belligerent occupation of Palestinian territory and its 16-year-long blockade of Gaza.” Notably, South Africa points out that Israel has been carrying out extreme violence against Palestinians even before Hamas’s actions on October 7 (which it unequivocally condemns but notes cannot justify genocide).
https://africasacountry.com/2024/01/understanding-south-africas-icj-case-against-israel
Well, for weeks before the Houthis said that the reason for the blockade is Israel’s ongoing genocide in Gaza. And that once Israel ceases their attacks on Gaza they would end the blockade.
Instead of using their political leverage to get Israel to stop their bombing, and thereby ensuring the end of the Houthi blockade, the US is instead attacking the Houthis and providing even more cover to Israel to continue it’s genocide.
But yes, of course the US and allies would value the delays of shipments and providing genocide cover for Israel more than stopping an ongoing genocide against Palestinians
And yes, it’s a major worldwide shipment route. So why does the US not use their political capital to stop Israel and thereby the blockade instead of attacking the Houthis on their own territory and greatly exacerbating tensions in the region.
That is why i said that there is a disconnect in what the US says and what it does. It has a diplomatic route to take but instead starts warring. And no, saying that the Houthis should just stop the blockade without Israel stopping it’s genocide is not a valid diplomatic route.
So that begs the question if the US is truly concerned with the blockade of a major shipping route or if they’re simply providing cover for Israel to continue bombing Gaza and terrorising the West Bank.
Replying from my alt account
Hehe yep
Edit: and i just realised i posted this from my other account and not my dbzer0 account lol. But point still stands
While this is good, i would have hoped that the secretary general would have used much more strong language at this point.
He should have absolutely condemned the mass murder perpetrated by Israel and called for a total ceasefire, not a humanitarian ceasefire.
He could have at least done that much, since not many in power are willing to call what is happening a genocide and ethnic cleansing, even though that is what’s happening.
Exactly. People don’t want to accept it but i see a lot of parallels between MK and Qassam brigades as liberation armed struggle. When peaceful protest fails then violent opposition is inevitable.
Just fyi. Apartheid didn’t end because of peaceful protest.
The ANC had been peacefully opposing the Apartheid government. But that all ended after the Sharpeville massacre commited by the Apartheid government.
Then MK was formed ( uMkhonto we Sizwe). MK was the armed guerilla resistance that Mandela and the ANC saw was needed, because the Apartheid government wasn’t giving in to peaceful opposition of their government.
You’re probably confusing what people say was a ‘peaceful’ end to Apartheid because civil war was avoided.
And it was only truly avoided because the resistance had to make so many unfair concessions to the international liberal powers that be ( imf, the US etc.) and the Apartheid government. Otherwise the Apartheid government was gearing up to actually start mass murdering the non white population (aka genocide).
There truly are a lot of parallels between Apartheid south africa and israel
Thanks, being called a tankie didn’t bother me. It just took me by surprise because i wasn’t even saying anything untrue.
Honestly I’m learning more from hexbear and lemmygrad than lemmy.world, amongst others. I had a vague idea about the geopolitics and history of certain areas but the posts and discussions on there really shed a lot of light on that. And a lot is freely available information if you want to search for it. On the other instance they’ll rather spit venom at each other than exchange information.
Ok, not everyone is bad on lemmy.world, but I’ve come across the most hateful, asinine users there.