The Houthis wouldn’t be firing Iranian anti-ship missiles if Iranian munitions factories were bombed, but the USA chooses not to do that.
big “the us didn’t really lose vietnam” cope energy
exploiting political reality is a valid military strategy
IMO treating any attack by Iranian-made missiles as if it were launched by Iran would be a reasonable policy
this stance would be an insane own-goal given what’s going on in ukraine
I read the article and that headline is clickbait as fuck.
it’s clickbait in the same way that vietnam defeated the us in that war they had that one time
probably the purpose of the us navy above all else is to protect shipping. like yes they’re set up to fight other navies and project power, but at the end of the day, that’s all so that nobody can fuck with the country’s logistics.
and even given how much money gets shoveled into it, it completely failed to do so against a group of fighters with a shoestring budget.
all it takes is a handful of persistent mosquitoes to ruin the whole thing and have the entire party pick up their gear
when i go to a picnic i don’t normally bring my billion-dollar mosquito killing machine, and when i do, i expect it to protect me
There has been no genocide. […] About 700,000 Arabs either fled or were expelled during the 1947 civil war and 1948 independence war of Israel following the United Nations-backed decision to recognise a State of Israel.
kind of pointless arguing with somebody reality-challenged enough that they can describe a genocide and then go “see no genocide”
it’s pretty obvious to anybody paying attention what’s going on in gaza, you just evidently just don’t want to pay attention
As of May 2024, only 12 of Gaza’s 36 hospitals are functional; 84% of health centers in the region have been destroyed or suffered damage. […] Israel has also destroyed numerous culturally significant buildings, including 13 libraries housing thousands of books,[37][38] all of Gaza’s 12 universities and 80% of its schools,[39][40] dozens of mosques, three churches, and two museums.[41][42][43]
so take your pick: is israel’s bombing so wildly indiscriminate that they’re just razing 80% of gaza, or are they deliberately targeting the infrastructure people need to live in a place?
Also, it wouldn’t actually silence his critics on this, precisely because it won’t change anything. The war will continue, so people would just start demanding that [Starmer] demand issuing arrest warrants for Israeli government ministers who come to the UK, or trade embargoes, or whatever.
i guess defending starmer’s “earlier, weak position on gaza” is more or less equivalent to criticism of it
pointing out that when you say “iran and israel should face international justice”, you only mean “iran should face international justice” is relevant, yes
i’m not insulting you when i call you a hypocrite, i’m just accurately labeling the thing you’re doing, and if you take the word for the thing you’re doing as an insult, that’s maybe a sign you should stop doing that thing
if you want to take referencing a year’s worth of posts establishing your position on israel as a purity test then i could play my own fun little line drawing game
yes because people never say things that aren’t true or that they don’t really believe
it’s not really anybody’s problem that you’re a hypocrite, but it is relevant to point out that it’s likely the case
whether or not you actually care about israel’s war crimes is very obviously materially relevant to the conversation
i’m not asking for the sum total of your opinions
i’m asking for any evidence an opinion which you’ve previously been happy to provide on several past occasions isn’t in piss-baby centrist territory
oh we’re playing the “draw the precise, exact line” game, are we?
whatever that line is, a year and multiple times talking specifically about israel seems like enough time to get across a sentiment more negative than “i guess israel is kind of bad, but we can’t be too hasty about these things”
my account is 3 days old and your account is over 300 days old
you’ve been plenty active in feddit.uk over the past few months, which has had plenty of news stories to pick from where it would’ve been a relevant remark, and it’s not like you haven’t spoken about israel during that time, and the harshest thing you’ve had to say about the situation is now, but only in the context of iran also deserving international justice
any given thing
literally the thing we’re talking about
the precise context I think is important
literally any context other than this specific one
if you only ever bring up how israel needs to face international justice in the context of iran facing international justice, it kind of sounds like you don’t really care about israel facing international justice
out of interest could you link to a time you’ve called for israel to face international justice outside the context of “iran should also face international justice”?
Any alleged wrongdoings on Israel’s part
“alleged wrongdoings” when there’s video evidence
no equivalence between [potential Israeli human rights abuses] and the denial of paid work, Jew-baiting, herding into ghettos, incarceration, disease and starvation
“potential human rights abuses”
incarceration, disease and starvation is literally ongoing because of israel’s actions
The Israeli–Palestinian conflict is a territorial and political one
attempted genocide is just a territorial and political issue?
the best case scenario here is that this was just a really clumsy appeal to authority on your behalf
for the record, i hate that you are making me defend the tankies
what definition of “winning” are you using