• juliebean@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    okay, one: vader? an empath? really?

    two: even if he was how is empathic reading supposed to tell him she’s his daughter? it’s telempathy, not remote gene testing. it isn’t like leia was feeling familial affection for the guy.

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      Vader can sense Luke repeatedly throughout 5 and 6. Luke can sense Leia in 5 and 6. Vader can sense Leia at the end of 6. But no one ever asked why Vader couldn’t do it in 4. Hopefully this helps.

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        Vader only starts sensing Luke after he gets some training and goes from being merely Force sensitive to a proper Force adept. Trained adepts are consistently shown in the franchise to be easier to sense than untrained sensitives, like Leia.

        Vader only knows Luke is his son after being told his name. He only finds out Luke has a sister after ripping the knowledge from his mind, and it’s unclear if he got her name.

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        Vader can sense Leia at the end of 6.

        He can? The only thing I remember is him reading Luke’s thoughts that she was his sister, which doesn’t involve sensing or reading her at all.

      • juliebean@lemm.ee
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        i’ll admit it’s been a while since i’ve watched the films, but it was probably a bit more obvious with Luke, right? he wasn’t exactly hidden. he had vader’s last name and lived with vader’s family on vader’s home planet.

        meanwhile leia was adopted by some rando and had her name changed to match. she probably didn’t even know she was adopted.

        anyway, i will have to rewatch the OT with this in mind at some point.

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          1 year ago

          In retrospect, hiding Anakin’s son on his home planet and keeping his last name wasn’t such a great plan.

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            1 year ago

            I think they were banking on Vader hating the planet so much he’d never willingly return and then later training Luke in the hopes that Vader may hesitate to kill his own kids, because Vader hesitating to kill someone is basically the only way anyone has a hope of beating him.

      • blindsight@beehaw.org
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        Yeah, but that was after he was already doing some pretty Forcy things. Leia only used the Force very weakly for empathic connection.