• alvvayson@lemmy.world
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    I was alive when Nelson Mandela was active, and he wasn’t called a terrorist in the west.

    He was revered as a hero by many in the West, just like Navalny is revered today.

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      By some people, sure. But Mandela and the ANC were designated terrorists by Reagan’s government in 1986, and this wasn’t changed until 2008. It’s definitely untrue that he wasn’t called a terrorist in the west.Source.

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          Unofficial support does not matter as much as official position recognised internationally. USA also supported Nazi Germany until USSR marched in and whooped Hitler’s twink ass.

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            USA also supported Nazi Germany until USSR marched in and whooped Hitler’s twink ass.

            Lol fucking what? The USSR militarily supported the Nazis until they were attacked

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              The USSR militarily supported the Nazis until they were attacked

              Thanks for lying out of your teeth. You are practicing Hitler’s Big Lie principles remarkably well.

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                  SoCiAliStS aRe NaZiS

                  This is what I read. Did you, in good faith, forget to mention that its true, non-masked name, is “Treaty of Non-Aggression between Germany and the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics”? A ceasefire pact is not a “we are friends” pact, but a pact to not bomb the fuck out of each other. Why did Soviets few years later hold parts of Berlin and Germany to purge Nazis, as Allied Forces worked under USSR to defeat Hitler? Why did Allied Forces not agree to align with USSR and defeat Nazi Germany, until Hitler’s regime internally failed with munitions and USSR was well on the way to defeat Hitler?

                  Do you know that the real “we are friends” energy radiates not out of a ceasefire pact between USSR and Nazi Germany, but between USA and Nazi Germany, considering USA was the basis for all of Hitler’s racial segregation policies? Straight from a CIA news outlet. https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/11/what-america-taught-the-nazis/540630/

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                    I think you need to take a breath mate…

                    Yes, the USSR and Nazi Germany were cooperative during WWII until the Nazis thought they could expand the eastern front. That is just a fact. I’m not saying they were Allied, but they weren’t exactly enemies until the Nazi betrayal of said NAP.

                    I did not bring up the US at any point in my comment, but no I don’t believe they were the good guy in this situation either. The civil rights of minorities in the US at the time were appalling and it’s no wonder Hitler looked at that and sought to implement it against the “undesirables” in his country

                    Not all disagreement is hostile or an attack, I was simply providing a correction to the previous statement that the USSR and Nazi Germany did not militarily benefit each other. If you disagree that their agreements did not have military benefits for both sides, then I very much would like to hear that argument. Obviously once Germany expanded the eastern front, there was no cooperation.

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      A lot of people seem the think he was only regarded well once released from prison. I certainly didn’t know much about him until then.

      Yet Only Fools and Horses was made in 1981, and they lived in Nelson Mandela House. So even in the UK we knew South Africa was on the wrong side of history. And we should know, we wrote most of it…