Collective punishment is when job and language training programs and employment placement. The more language and job skills a Muslim learns, the more collectively punished they are.
Where “job and language training programs” include sitting on the ground next to two hundred other inmates in humiliating postures.
…that said the camps indeed don’t seem to be collective punishment from what I’ve gathered. If you keep your head down and behave Han-like enough and don’t complain the Han leave you alone. They’re also not bombing cities but just abducting people into camps, telling families to keep quiet about it or they’re next because opposing the camps is obviously unpatriotic. Or questioning the state’s decisions.
A component of CPC ideology is the idea that economic circumstance is the root of almost all problems and that, by extension, radicalization is a byproduct of being left behind by the economic system.
People might be forced into job and language training, but they do come out of it with job and language training (and with radical tendencies mostly eliminated). It’s a collectively beneficial policy in the long run, but does step on Western notions of human rights quite aggressively (compulsory and forced education is a no-no).
For what it’s worth, China has been trying to differentiate being “Chinese” from being “Han” to varying levels of success. This is in alignment with communist ideology. In fact, much of CPC ideology is drawn from Marxism: China is moving towards communism. In that view, China’s behaviour becomes much more predictable, much easier to understand, and also much more reasonable. Communist ideology forms the core tenets of Chinese governance, just like the rights of life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness and the principles of liberty, equality, and justice are core tenets of Western democracy.
radicalization is a byproduct of being left behind by the economic system.
You mean left behind by state capitalism with an absolute fig leaf of a welfare system?
…curious how MLs manage to blame themselves but not notice it. Who are those evil fat cats reaping all the profit leaving Xinjiang in the dust? Who profits now, who failed to invest ages ago?
Today, Xinjiang is solidly middle of the lack today in both GDP/capita and median income. Meanwhile, minority groups in Xinjiang have progressively narrowed the income gap over the years while in other provinces, Manchu and Hui people have almost eliminated the gap entirely. You’re free to read the studies, but a good chunk of them are in Chinese. What is known is that, as a result, terrorist attacks have basically been eradicated. Looking at the data, whatever China has done is clearly working. It’s simple, really: income go up, radicalization go down. China brought income up, and radicalization go down.
Collective punishment is when job and language training programs and employment placement. The more language and job skills a Muslim learns, the more collectively punished they are.
Where “job and language training programs” include sitting on the ground next to two hundred other inmates in humiliating postures.
…that said the camps indeed don’t seem to be collective punishment from what I’ve gathered. If you keep your head down and behave Han-like enough and don’t complain the Han leave you alone. They’re also not bombing cities but just abducting people into camps, telling families to keep quiet about it or they’re next because opposing the camps is obviously unpatriotic. Or questioning the state’s decisions.
A component of CPC ideology is the idea that economic circumstance is the root of almost all problems and that, by extension, radicalization is a byproduct of being left behind by the economic system.
People might be forced into job and language training, but they do come out of it with job and language training (and with radical tendencies mostly eliminated). It’s a collectively beneficial policy in the long run, but does step on Western notions of human rights quite aggressively (compulsory and forced education is a no-no).
For what it’s worth, China has been trying to differentiate being “Chinese” from being “Han” to varying levels of success. This is in alignment with communist ideology. In fact, much of CPC ideology is drawn from Marxism: China is moving towards communism. In that view, China’s behaviour becomes much more predictable, much easier to understand, and also much more reasonable. Communist ideology forms the core tenets of Chinese governance, just like the rights of life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness and the principles of liberty, equality, and justice are core tenets of Western democracy.
You mean left behind by state capitalism with an absolute fig leaf of a welfare system?
…curious how MLs manage to blame themselves but not notice it. Who are those evil fat cats reaping all the profit leaving Xinjiang in the dust? Who profits now, who failed to invest ages ago?
Today, Xinjiang is solidly middle of the lack today in both GDP/capita and median income. Meanwhile, minority groups in Xinjiang have progressively narrowed the income gap over the years while in other provinces, Manchu and Hui people have almost eliminated the gap entirely. You’re free to read the studies, but a good chunk of them are in Chinese. What is known is that, as a result, terrorist attacks have basically been eradicated. Looking at the data, whatever China has done is clearly working. It’s simple, really: income go up, radicalization go down. China brought income up, and radicalization go down.
And because radicalisation has gone down now they need camps they didn’t need before?
Camps are emptying 🤷♀️
So… Yes?
Source: mouthpieces of western officials collectively punishing Muslims of many other countries, for oil
I’m sure everyone involved in fabricating this genocide merely has the best interests of all Muslims at heart.![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/7a4ca0f4-003d-47b9-ac1a-1c4e380938e5.jpeg)
Is this that whataboutism I’ve been hearing so much about?