The 12-year-old Israeli girl whose “Harry Potter”-inspired photo went viral after she was kidnapped by Hamas has been found dead alongside her grandmother in Gaza.

  • TokenBoomer@lemmy.world
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    That’s not very specific. If they executed her, wouldn’t they want to say that. So, I can only presume it’s from an Israeli bombing.

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      Not that that’s a big leap to make, you’re just blowing smoke out your ass.

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        I looked at 5-10 articles to find cause of death. Israeli officials aren’t releasing it. My presumption could be wrong. Why not release the cause of death? 🤔

        Edit: One article did say rescue workers found her. Just saying…

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          I don’t think this girl or her grandma went to Gaza of their own accord. Bringing people into an area you’re going to make a war zone after an attack still makes you at fault for their death.

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            I’m sorry, is Gaza doing a bombing campaign on itself? Hamas is horrible, but bombing hostages and civilians is not the right play here. All of you calling these bombings justified don’t want peace or justice, you want revenge. And that revenge costs more innocent people’s lives.

            • Cleverdawny@lemm.ee
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              If a bunch of Hamas terrorists drag a 12 year old into the path of an incoming bombardment, they’re still the ones responsible for that death.

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                Full stop, it’s always the one who sent the missle who kills the person and is responsible. It’s always up to them to verify that civilians aren’t around the target. Isreal doesn’t care about childrens being a victim of their attacks.

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                  Oh?

                  So, if I shoot at you and hide behind a child, it is your fault for defending yourself? Not mine for TAKING A HOSTAGE?

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                    The missle was miles away, no one was in danger when it was sent except the literal person that it killed (and a bunch of civilians that probably had nothing to do with it, half of them statistically children)

                    When there is a hostage situation, the cops don’t bomb the whole building even when shot at. Any hostage death directly caused by an officer is a complete and utter failure.

                    I reject your rhetoric. Your analogy is clearly not apt and still points to unacceptable behavior.

                    Isreal does not care about the hostages, they do not care about the civilians and children casualties. They are killing swaths of people to steal land, to cleanse whole towns ethnically and to “teach” Hamas a lesson.

                    I’m constantly surprised how easy it is for certain people to cheer on genocide and mass murder. You should be ashamed.

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                    If I shoot back while you’re behind that child, it shows how little I care about the child, or at the very least conflicting priorities.

              • Annoyed_🦀 @monyet.cc
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                Well maybe israel shouldn’t bomb the area and focus on saving the hostage like everyone have told them, she wouldn’t be dead

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                Someone ordered the bombing. They’re to blame. Should we go back to the Nakba, the Balfour Declaration and the British mandate? Or are we aiming for the Garden of Eden and original sin? Let’s take the philosophical route and delve into the origins of human nature. Maybe she’s still alive in another universe. The inability for some to see the context of history and the cause and effect that occurs limits my hope for humanity. We have the ability to seek and learn knowledge, but choose not to, based on some indoctrinated belief system that was neither designed or chosen by the vast majority. God works in mysterious ways.

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                  Hamas started the war and hid in cities, trying to make sure enough civilians were around that Israel had trouble retaliating after they launched their rockets at civilians. They’re genocidal terrorists who are religious fanatics. I’m gonna blame them for their hostage dying. If you aren’t, that’s a you problem.

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              So what you’re telling us is that both sides have equal blame in this terrorist attack that took the lives of so many civilians?

              I can agree with that, it’s reasonable

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          In place I come from neither identify or crime details are released if the victim was kid.

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              Don’t know. They could. Maybe it’s because it’s a tabloid or it might be considered a “norm” in their way of operation.

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          Why not release the cause of death of a 12-year old? Because Israel is a civilized country perhaps. If you want to fap to corpses of children, perhaps check out Hamas’s tik tok.

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            A civilized country doesn’t routinely turn children into corpses. Daily reminder that 47.3% of the Gaza population is under 18.

            Isreal would share the cause of death while licking their lips if it was an execution. They would happily share the footage of it and spread it.

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            Investigating the claims made in an article is not even close to what you describe.

            The same with the rocket striking the hospital, research is needed to figure out what is happening. From your rethoric I’m assuming you too be sitting the Israeli cause. Would you rather have the whole world exploding with anger about Israel bombing an hospital? That’s why you need research and proper questioning sources and claims.

            Bit weird to instantly accuse people of whatever act you proposed just for being critical about an article in the frenzied media warfare we’re in.

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            Very much possible, Where I come from, neither identity or crime details would be released in case of under age victim .

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            Civilized countries don’t bomb civilians. And your fascination with necrophilia is disturbing.

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      Can we all at least agree that it’s flaccid-dicked small men on both sides, and other old men with shriveled balls benefiting off of it from the sidelines?

      Anyone who thinks that escalating this thing with more guns will solve anything hasn’t read a single paragraph of history. It can only make things worse. All Hamas did with their bombing was give the Israeli regime casus belli to commit whatever atrocities they want, and in turn Netanyahu’s fuckboys carpet bombing Gaza is just radicalizing everyone there for the next generation. It’s not too late to ramp this down before it pulls in the rest of the region, but we also have western arms manufacturers pushing every government to send our guns and bombs over. The machine of war doesn’t like being slowed down once you allow it to get moving again.

      Trying to place blame for any one atrocity at this point is like pissing on a campfire when the forest behind you is on fire.

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        So the Palestinians should resign themselves to be oppressed second class citizens with no rights? Maybe they should complain harder? They protested peacefully in 2018 and were shot.

        “Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.” - JFK