Israel has continued bombarding Gaza’s south despite telling 1.1 million people in the north of the besieged enclave to relocate there ahead of an expected ground offensive.

“We were displaced from Tal al-Hawa to Rafah at the request of the Israeli army, and this is what happened to us. My son is a 3-month-old martyr,” the father of a child killed in an attack in Rafah told Al Jazeera.

  • blkpws@lemmy.ml
    2310·
    1 year ago

    Palestinians are just civilians, they aren’t armed, they are not an army, they are just citizens getting murdered by a terrorist state that has been invading them from more than 70 years. HAMAS was voted by Palestine citizens, and it’s the only defense they have. The attack that HAMAS did was mainly because Israel was already invading and killing a ratio or 200/400 citizens each year, while stealing their farms, and land, that’s why HAMAS attacked the territory that in the past was just Palestine.

    I said “HAMAS has the right to self-defense” as everyone is just saying “Israel has the right to self-defense” which is super unfair as Israel is the one invading and attacking from years passively and injuring Palestinians.

    Again, Palestinians are mostly citizens, they aren’t armed to be able to defend themselves, they almost can’t have a voice.

    You say “terrorist” too easily.

    https://redirect.invidious.io/watch?v=l8qay1Al7Dc

    • Tavarin@lemmy.ca
      1424·
      1 year ago

      Hamas has been firing thousands of rockets at Isreali cities every single year since they came into existence, and Hamas’ stated goal is the eradication of Jews. The only reason Isreali casualties aren’t higher than Palestines is Isreal has the iron dome.

      Hamas is a terrorist organization.

        • Tavarin@lemmy.ca
          727·
          1 year ago

          Hamas has been firing rockets into Israel since well before the current apartheid.

          • blkpws@lemmy.ml
            206·
            1 year ago

            From Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas):

            In early February 2006, Hamas offered Israel a ten-year truce “in return for a complete Israeli withdrawal from the occupied Palestinian territories: the West Bank, Gaza Strip and East Jerusalem,”[183] and recognition of Palestinian rights including the “right of return”.

            As far as I know, Israel didn’t wanted peace.

            • Tavarin@lemmy.ca
              520·
              1 year ago

              Israel gave land back to the Palestinians before, and the Palestinians just used that to attack from closer to Israeli cities. The Palestinians have never wanted peace.

              • blkpws@lemmy.ml
                83·
                1 year ago

                Sorry, I thought you were talking about Hamas. Can you paste some source, so I can read what do you refer?

                  • blkpws@lemmy.ml
                    2·
                    1 year ago

                    From your reference:

                    Nevertheless, there is a range of ulterior motives for Israel’s denial of Palestinian statehood. If Palestine were declared a state, then immediately, Israel, by its present occupation of the West Bank will be in breach of the United Nations Charter. Palestine, as a state, could legitimately call upon the inherent right of individual or collective self-defense under Article 51 of the Charter to remove Israel from the occupied territories. Palestine, as a state, would be able to accede to international conventions and bring legal action against Israel on various matters. Palestine could accede to various international human rights instruments, such as the Covenant on Civil and Political Rights. It could even join the International Criminal Court and file cases against Israel for war crimes. It would be a tinderbox of a situation that is highly likely to precipitate conflict in the Middle East.[27]

                    There is a lively debate around the shape that a lasting peace settlement would take (see for example the One-state solution and Two-state solution). Authors like Cook have argued that the one-state solution is opposed by Israel because the very nature of Zionism and Jewish nationalism calls for a Jewish majority state, whilst the two-state solution would require the difficult relocation of half a million Jewish settlers living in the West Bank and East Jerusalem.[28] The Palestinian leaders such as Salam Fayyad have rejected calls for a binational state or unilateral declaration of statehood. As of 2010, only a minority of Palestinians and Israelis support the one-state solution.[29] Interest in a one-state solution is growing, however, as the two-state approach fails to accomplish a final agreement.[30][31]

                    That’s why Israel will never make peace.

                    Various “transfers of power and responsibilities” in the Gaza Strip and West Bank from Israel to the Palestinians took place in the mid-1990s.[39] The Palestinians achieved self-governance of major cities in the West Bank and the entire Gaza Strip. Israel maintained and continues to maintain a presence in the West Bank for security reasons. In 2013 Israel still had control of 61% of the West Bank, while the Palestinians had control of civic functions for most of the Palestinian population.

                    So they never wanted to give back the Palestine territory.

                • Tavarin@lemmy.ca
                  21·
                  1 year ago

                  The Arab states. And said Arab states and Palestine have continually attacked Israel since. Hamas is the latest in a long line of Arab aggressors, and have been firing rockets at Israel for decades.

                  Ignoring the decades of Arab aggression as a direct cause of the current conflict is idiotic at best.

                  • Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone
                    1·
                    1 year ago

                    Portraying the Arabs as aggressors in the genocidal colonial project undertaken in occupied Palestine during the last 8 decades is racist and dishonest at best