Hi all,

I’m seeing a lot of hate for capitalism here, and I’m wondering why that is and what the rationale behind it is. I’m pretty pro-capitalism myself, so I want to see the logic on the other side of the fence.

If this isn’t the right forum for a political/economic discussion-- I’m happy to take this somewhere else.

Cheers!

  • argv_minus_one@beehaw.org
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    105
    arrow-down
    7
    ·
    1 year ago

    Global warming is upon us. If something doesn’t drastically change, now, our entire species is going to die.

    • persolb@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      7
      arrow-down
      18
      ·
      1 year ago

      I think this conflates capitalism with lack of coordination. We could fix global warming today via regulation. Even if our government was socialist, it would probably still not be curbing emissions due to trying to achieve some other non-capital goal.

      Second, there isn’t any need to falsely imply our species is going to die because of climate change. No model points at that. Billions of people having crappier lives and dying sooner should be enough motivation.

      • archomrade [he/him]@midwest.social
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        25
        ·
        1 year ago

        We’re ~ 5 degrees from mass crop failure and famine, and that’s pretty well documented.

        “Billions of people having crappier lives” is a weird way of describing starvation.

        • persolb@lemmy.ml
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          5
          arrow-down
          6
          ·
          1 year ago

          Because the models don’t support your statement.

          Billions WILL have worse lives due to this. A very small subset of that will be because they are on the verge of starving.

    • Zyansheep@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      8
      arrow-down
      20
      ·
      1 year ago

      Hmmm, its those kinds of extreme statements that make me a bit suspicious. Is global warming really an extinction level event? I can imagine terrible civil wars over resources and increasing displacement from natural disasters, but total eradication of the human race is afaik not a possible result of global warming.

      • Hexadecimalkink@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        7
        arrow-down
        3
        ·
        1 year ago

        It’s kinda like when they called it world war 1 and 2 - it didn’t actually include the entire world, but it did include so many countries that people considered it to be the world. The amount of people that could die or be affected by global warming could kill billions. Billions.

        • Zyansheep@lemmy.ml
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          3
          arrow-down
          6
          ·
          1 year ago

          Hmmm… words used in not-satiric circumstances where the true meaning isn’t the intended meaning is a bit confusing…