• vexikron@lemmy.zip
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    11 months ago

    How is this surprising to you?

    Half of the US votes for christian nationalist theological fascists that have already successfully banned everything to do with lgtbq people existing in many parts of the country, and about 1/3 of the US population believes in all or significant parts of the insanely hateful and delusional QAnon conspiracy universe.

    You must not be American, or follow American domestic politics closely?

    The Republicans control Congress which means the Democrats cannot pass any legislation, and are in fact bogged down fighting off insane nonsense to basically either somehow give more money to the already wealthy, or fighting off insane shit to take away even more basic rights for minorities.

    Its basically illegal to get an abortion now in half the country.

    And Trump has now multiple times just said he will be a dictator if he wins in 2024, and is currently leading in the polls.

    Like, if you are European, can I fake marry your daughter or something to get the hell out of this collapsing basket case of a society?

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      11 months ago

      You guessed it, I am not American.

      Nor I have time to spend following the domestic politics of a country that was decadent when it was founded by terrorists (according to its own Constitution).

      I am surprised still because this is 2023 and you are behaving literally medieval de facto instituting a new kind of feudalism gibing power to these people.

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        11 months ago

        The easiest way to explain this to a non American is that Americans are highly selfish, vain, anti intellectual, ignorant and superficial compared to much of the rest of the world.

        Hence me asking about getting out.

        Years ago now I was telling my friends that QAnon was such a serious problem that it would endanger the country and even the rest of the world very seriously. I have a degree in Econ and another in Poli Sci, so I was able to explain in detail a worst case scenario.

        Then Jan 6th happened, far exceeding my worst fears.

        A week or so before one friend told me nah man nobody believes in QAnon before, old meme bro.

        Then after Jan 6th they spent a year calling me hyperbolic for describing what Trump and other MAGA Republicans were doing as fascist.

        I no longer speak with them, as in addition to being infuriatingly politically illiterate, they are generally insufferable people who bicker about each other constantly.

        Anyway… yeah. We live in a cyberpunk dystopia over here, half corporate exploitation of everything material, half cruel, absurd and hypocritical hyper christian fundamentalism over our minds.

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          11 months ago

          I’ll let you onto a little secret about Europeans: we don’t don’t give half a shit about the US and their “politics”.

          You may well argue that we have your bases in our territory, NATO and your social networks influencing our lives, but I see that as our internal problem of still having to grow a proper pair, rather than an interesting consequence of whatever medieval situation you’re brewing in there.

          And you wish you were in a cyberpunk dystopia. You’re in a boring one.

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            11 months ago

            It’s perfectly fine not to care about another country’s politics, but WTF do you mean putting “politics” in scare quotes? You’re just being condescending for the sake of being condescending, and you’re doing it to someone who is pretty clearly trying to explain things in good faith. If you’re not interested, just don’t read it. It’s not that hard.

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              11 months ago

              My “politics” is because I don’t think that any politically relevant (especially for the rest of the world) decision in the US is taken in or by the appointed institutions. And recent events, including the news we are commenting on here, are confirmation of this.