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minus-squareu_tamtam@programming.devlinkfedilinkarrow-up2arrow-down1·11 months agoOk, but what the heck does that reply have to do with anything?
minus-squareGarbageShoot [he/him]@hexbear.netlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up21arrow-down1·11 months agoPeople were really underestimating how quickly China could make chip progress, too
minus-squareu_tamtam@programming.devlinkfedilinkarrow-up1·11 months agoWhatever people’s estimations, we’ve yet to see this progress that you are talking about. It’s an interesting race for sure.
minus-squareJuryNullification [he/him]@hexbear.netlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up11arrow-down1·11 months agohttps://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/semiconductors/china-poised-to-break-5nm-barrier-huawei-lists-5nm-processor-presumably-built-with-smic-tech-defying-us-sanctions SMIC makes 5nm chips with DUV tech when Intel can’t break 5nm with EUV and billions in subsidies.
minus-squareu_tamtam@programming.devlinkfedilinkarrow-up1·11 months agoWhat it implies to stretch the DUV process into ever thinner lithography: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Th4E-0VFaEA Some background on how it was made: https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2023/11/how-huawei-made-a-cutting-edge-chip-in-china-and-surprised-the-us/ tl;dr/dw: China managed to produce small batches of semiconductors using stockpiled american and japanese equipment before sanctions kicked-in
Ok, but what the heck does that reply have to do with anything?
People were really underestimating how quickly China could make chip progress, too
Whatever people’s estimations, we’ve yet to see this progress that you are talking about. It’s an interesting race for sure.
https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/semiconductors/china-poised-to-break-5nm-barrier-huawei-lists-5nm-processor-presumably-built-with-smic-tech-defying-us-sanctions
SMIC makes 5nm chips with DUV tech when Intel can’t break 5nm with EUV and billions in subsidies.
What it implies to stretch the DUV process into ever thinner lithography: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Th4E-0VFaEA
Some background on how it was made: https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2023/11/how-huawei-made-a-cutting-edge-chip-in-china-and-surprised-the-us/
tl;dr/dw: China managed to produce small batches of semiconductors using stockpiled american and japanese equipment before sanctions kicked-in