• pingveno@lemmy.mlOP
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    10 months ago

    “Welcome to the end of democracy!” Posobiec declared. “We’re here to overthrow it completely. We didn’t get all the way there on January 6th, but we will endeavor to get rid of it and replace it with this right here,” he said, holding his fist in the air. “That’s right, because all glory is not to government, all glory to God.”

    When Democrats raise red flags about Republicans trying to end democracy, maybe listen, because Republicans aren’t hiding it anymore.

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      Um, that isn’t hyperbole or an exaggerated quote. Fucker actually said that during opening day of CPAC.

      Steve Bannon, former White House adviser, is heard in the background exclaiming, “All right! Amen!”

      The fact that every legitimate Republican didn’t denounce them during the rest of CPAC means they are condoning this belief if not outright endorsing it publicly.

      At this point anyone not doing everything they can to prevent Trump or other Republicans from gaining executive power is helping them and a traitor. We’ve long known this is what Republicans want. This is just the all-too-obvious cherry on top.

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      A vote for Hindenburg is a vote for Hitler. I don’t give a shit what the Dems have to say so long as the only offer they have to stop this is “vote blue forever”. Promising that they won’t personally end democracy while doing nothing to stop those who will isn’t defending democracy, it’s using liberal democracy’s inevitable death to boost their career via a hostage situation. Wake me up when they promise to put Jack in jail or better yet Hell.

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        In any nation with first past the post elections, like the United States, Leftists have exactly one rational voting strategy:

        Step 1. Identify the two front-runner parties, and determine which of the two is further left relative to the other.

        Step 2. Vote for that party in every single election (don’t forget midterms and local elections). Encourage everyone you know to do the same.

        Step 3. Once the (relative) left party has an overwhelming majority (over 2/3) and the relative right party becomes vanishingly irrelevant (under 1/3), then split the (relative) left party into its own relative left and right.

        Step 4. Repeat steps 1-3 with these new front-runner parties.

        Step 5. Iterate step 4 until your relative left party passes election reform such that elections are no longer susceptible to Duverger’s Law.

        Certainly try to push for reform within the relative left party between elections and during primaries, but at the ballot box the above is the only rational strategy. Voting third party, or refusing to vote the lesser evil, is not a rational strategy.

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      I’m glad you’re saying this and that OP posted it, I didn’t have the heart to. It’s so depressing that half our government (not half the people) are trying to make america authoritarian.

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      Look, idk about you, but first, this is a whataboutism…

      2nd, if it weren’t for the dem party’s complacency, they should’ve put an end to Trump’s rep. election campaign return, via arrests., since Trump prbly committed a couple of crimes at least to get delayed to hell…

      These things are just basic LIBERAL common sense for the Democratic Party, yet they decided to neglect it.