The long read: More people have been imprisoned for rioting during a single day in Bristol in 2021 than in any other protest-related disorder since at least the 1980s. What was behind this push to prosecute so harshly?
I don’t think setting fire to cars… Police car or not… is a socially acceptable thing to do. Ever. Call me old fashioned.
His sentence is surely up to the judge that sentenced him in line with the guidelines he or she would have received for this sort of offence and risk to life. So maybe you should be directing your fuck offs to the judiciary?
He pushed a burning pile of trash at a Cop
I imagine the judge asked the question: what on earth do you think would happen when you pushed an incendiary object onto a car? As in, what was the purpose of this act?
🫠 I can’t believe I’m being murdered by words on an internet forum for saying people shouldn’t burn cars. It’s madness, I know.
I will continue to direct my fuck offs your way.
Good for you 😊. If that makes you feel like you’re doing something go for it. Other users only exist so that you can vent your frustrations with abusing language. Yup, that’s absolutely the point of this forum… I think 🤔?
Ah, the moderate urge to value politeness above justice.
You made up a scenario that’s not in the article to justify the 14 years someone is losing from their life.
If you support a just society you can’t also support harsh sentencing with the purpose of “sending a message”. Every regime in history has criminalized descent, and sentencing a person to 14 fucking years in prison for supposedly pushing burning trash at a cop car is trying to send a message.
You made up a scenario that’s not in the article to justify the 14 years someone is losing from their life.
Nope. If you you simply use Google you can find the information with a little comprehension and reading.
He was convicted of attempted arson with intent to endanger life for trying to set a police van alight.
Roberts was also found guilty of attempted arson being reckless as to whether life was endangered, for trying to set a second police van alight with seven officers inside.
He told an officer inside one of the vans he would “go bang”.
And if you don’t like the BBC (because I’m guessing it’s “the biased state media arm of the British government” 😉) here’s the Guardian on the same hearing.
The 25-year-old, who had taken cocaine and been drinking, then smashed windows of the police station, Bristol crown court was told.
Roberts, of no fixed address, was also caught on film pushing pieces of flaming cardboard under two police vans and placing industrial bins around an already partially burnt-out police car and setting them alight. He told an officer inside one of the vans he would “go bang”.
He smashed in the windows of a mobile police station and encouraged the crowd to help roll it over, before setting light to the cab while hundreds of people were close by.
If you support a just society you can’t also support harsh sentencing with the purpose of “sending a message”.
Harsh sentencing is pretty subjective. Your harsh is another’s fair. You simply aren’t the arbiter of that because you weren’t the judge doing the sentencing at the trial. He or she doesn’t pull sentences out of their arse, there’s sentencing guidelines they need to follow.
Lad was literally smashing windows, shoving burning piles of cardboard into a car for a half hour. Not one sane individual is upset this dude is off the streets
Was it… Trying to set fire to a vehicle with people inside?
He pushed a burning pile of trash at a Cop car and got 14 years. Fuck off.
I don’t think setting fire to cars… Police car or not… is a socially acceptable thing to do. Ever. Call me old fashioned.
His sentence is surely up to the judge that sentenced him in line with the guidelines he or she would have received for this sort of offence and risk to life. So maybe you should be directing your fuck offs to the judiciary?
I imagine the judge asked the question: what on earth do you think would happen when you pushed an incendiary object onto a car? As in, what was the purpose of this act?
Hows that Kiwi shoe polish taste? This is a wildly inappropriate sentence, and I will continue to direct my fuck offs your way.
🫠 I can’t believe I’m being murdered by words on an internet forum for saying people shouldn’t burn cars. It’s madness, I know.
Good for you 😊. If that makes you feel like you’re doing something go for it. Other users only exist so that you can vent your frustrations with abusing language. Yup, that’s absolutely the point of this forum… I think 🤔?
Ah, the moderate urge to value politeness above justice.
You made up a scenario that’s not in the article to justify the 14 years someone is losing from their life.
If you support a just society you can’t also support harsh sentencing with the purpose of “sending a message”. Every regime in history has criminalized descent, and sentencing a person to 14 fucking years in prison for supposedly pushing burning trash at a cop car is trying to send a message.
At least open the article.
Nope. If you you simply use Google you can find the information with a little comprehension and reading.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-59705203
And if you don’t like the BBC (because I’m guessing it’s “the biased state media arm of the British government” 😉) here’s the Guardian on the same hearing.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/dec/17/ryan-roberts-bristol-kill-the-bill-protest-jailed
Harsh sentencing is pretty subjective. Your harsh is another’s fair. You simply aren’t the arbiter of that because you weren’t the judge doing the sentencing at the trial. He or she doesn’t pull sentences out of their arse, there’s sentencing guidelines they need to follow.
Anyway it was fun chatting to you. ☺️
Good bet he won’t try that bright move again
Lad was literally smashing windows, shoving burning piles of cardboard into a car for a half hour. Not one sane individual is upset this dude is off the streets
Holy shit! 14 years?!
That’s insane! I can’t even imagine how braindead you have to be defend that kind of sentencing.