More than 60% of Brits want to re-join the EU with nearly the same number saying Britain was wrong to leave in the first place, a new poll shows.

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    11 months ago

    Very true, it is a very complex subject. My original post was mostly a joke, but also the current view of a lot of people in the EU right now. You can’t just leave and then say takebackskies, no matter how unfair and fucked up the situation was that got the UK to this point. I’m sure if the UK would really put an effort into rejoining, the EU would allow it, but not without a lot of concessions and some kind of trust that the UK will be in it for the long haul.

    I don’t really know a lot about the culture in the UK, but it seems like a lot of people just stood back and did nothing. From what I understand a lot of older folk in the countryside voted to leave and a lot of the younger folk in the cities voted to remain. Of course it isn’t so cut and dry, misinformation was a big part of it (both intentional and non intentional) . But the part I don’t understand is why the young folk let this happen. They are a huge part of the economy, of what makes the country run and everybody seemed like welp this is the elected government so I guess it’s fine? Why weren’t there massive strikes and protests? Why wasn’t London completely shut down if such a large part of the people there felt like what was happening was not what they wanted. It wasn’t like this was a quick thing either, this went on for years, with the EU saying multiple times the UK didn’t have to leave and could just remain if they wanted.

    I’m sure there’s a good explanation, but I can’t understand it.

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      Why weren’t there massive strikes and protests? Why wasn’t London completely shut down if such a large part of the people there felt like what was happening was not what they wanted.

      There were dozens of enormous anti-Brexit protests in London and in cities across the country over the course of several years.

      It wasn’t like this was a quick thing either, this went on for years, with the EU saying multiple times the UK didn’t have to leave and could just remain if they wanted.

      Because the party that was in government had been taken over by fringe Brexit extremists and didn’t care what the British voters wanted. Even then, they struggled to get enough of their own MPs to support them which is why it took many dozens of chaotic votes over several years - plus an illegal suspension of Parliament that the courts had to step in to overrule - before they were able to ram their deal through.

      Even at the 2019 general election, a clear majority of voters voted for parties that were committed to a second referendum to allow us to stop Brexit, but the Tories ignored the voters and went ahead anyway.

      You seem really uninformed about the nature of the Brexit debate in the UK between 2016 and the UK’s exit in 2020.

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        11 months ago

        I only know the EU side and over here we were all like WTF are you guys doing? It is so insane, we cannot ever understand it. Friends of mine in the UK got their grants revoked, because they were coming from the EU. They were promised the grants would be paid by the UK instead, which was not only too late, but it never happened.

        Also I was imagining more like French style protest, burning the whole damn thing down. Plus hurting the bastards where it counts, in their wallets, so for example massive strikes. But maybe that isn’t the British way. I haven’t heard in the news at the time something like “The third week of Brexit protests leave London in lockdown.”

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          Also I was imagining more like French style protest, burning the whole damn thing down.

          So, fundamentally we think of ourselves as a democracy. Particularly for the liberal educated middle-class people who accounted for much of the Remain vote, it’s an important tenet of faith that political ends are things that should be achieved at the ballot box, not on the street.