Some people even support the industries fight for animal cruelty, climate change and new zoonosis

As long as people give money to the animal industry no government on earth will do shit

We ded

Most likely outcome (high confidence)

still letting this here: https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.aba7357

Animal products. No, it was not worth it.

No, I am against the prohibition of common terms, I advocate for a stricter declaration of ingredients. “Milk” alone could be milk from any mammal, cow, goat, human. Steak could be a cut from any animal, that is why a the animal it is from is declared. Oat milk is called milk since centuries but now the industry fears competition and is publishing propaganda and pays lobbyism for restrictive laws.

Right, but ‘steak’ does mean a little more than that. It also would indicate a particular kind of cut of meat, which would generally indicate minimal connective tissue, tenderness, location, etc.

So as long as it has “steak” written on it you just care that is any animal with those properties?

Would you like ‘meat-free’ labels allowed on foods that had absolutely no muscle-tissue content, but did contain animal organ, bone, and fat content?

I want a strong indicator that a product contains any animal products. There are already many labels for plant based products but none are required by any law.

I am in strong favor a big prominent “contains animal products” label. It would make live so much easier.

Do you buy “steak” as in a generic description for something from any animal, or do you buy bison, camel, goat or horse steak? I have only seen plant based steaks or schnitzel where it has it in the name. “Plant based product” or “product based on soy/pea”

This sounds kinda wrong, if you would put that logic in other circumstances we are at the argument the “anti-women-voting-right” argument from the crazy lady: Women should only be allowed to vote if they work. Or old people who retire, should they not be allowed to vote anymore? People who have medical conditions and so on…

or somehow block the empathy from their brain applying to animals.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance#Meat-eating

They are already sentient but have not the intelligence of a average developed human. Pigs for example are sentient but their intelligence is like that of a 3 year old human.

Please, go on, rebut the IPCC https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.aba7357

I am sure I will see it in the news, backyard science that changes how we see the world are always hyped.

I think you are just a egoistical self centered science denier who has troubles with very simple concepts.

Ah, the “the damage is already done” argument. Has anyone told you that you pay for the next victim of the industry? Buying the product supports the industry and keeps it alive.

Maybe you have no concept of future.

I am sure you did your own research on the shitter. Much smart, such proof, many scientific.

ah, they use their private money to burn oil in their backyard. alright.

the animal industry would just keep breeding and abusing animals despite no one buying their stuff. OK.

Just because one is paying someone to create emissions does not make them responsible because someone else did it?

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/may/31/avoiding-meat-and-dairy-is-single-biggest-way-to-reduce-your-impact-on-earth

See, even more single persons, do you think it is a single hive? those are all individuals you claim don’t change anything.

It is the single change everyone can make with the biggest impact. But don’t worry, a) you are old enough that you don’t matter b) you will see the future vegan because we would have to grind everything else to 0 if we want to support the animal industry, it alone will increase temperature by 2°C and from 3°C and upwards there is no more animal industry possible due to harvest loss and increased energy demand. Just chill and think you have done more than every vegan because you are not driving a car, well done, you are the one with no car.

I have not power over 10%, like you said. But have the power over me, and my choices and for what I want to be responsible. 10% is just 800.000 single persons making a choice and not hiding from responsibility.

It is not going away and will only be more urgent and more visible. You don’t have to do it alone if you want to have more impact. Join groups and organizations, go out and protest. If you want change it does not have to stop at your plate. Go out and talk to people about why you are vegan, be the change you want to see.