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    Protest for Palestine: They throw you in jail

    Protest for Israel: giant thumbs up meme

    Anyone not seeing the colonial world order as fascist at this point is well beyond redemption.

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      Have we read the same article?

      The Met said this week that general expressions of support for Palestinians, including flying the Palestinian flag, were not criminal offences but reiterated that supporting Hamas is a crime

      You are equating Palestine with Hamas.

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          How do they defend civilians? How their recent strike helped civilians? Doesn’t heads of Hamas benefit of endless slaughter refuelling the hatred as their platform?

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            How does Hamas and Palestine benefit from sitting like a duck, ready for slaughter and the erasure of country itself, by Israelis colonising and displacing Palestinians from their own land since 1948? This is the first time ever that any Palestine resistance in history has managed to breach and score a win against Israeli Zionists. Hamas is a major reason why Palestine is surviving so far against Israeli colonisers.

            Your western media will never tell you truth about the Arab world, because USA is Israel’s military and cyberwarfare backer, and USA controls most of world’s news media.

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            Those festivalgoers and babies on the other side of the wall were a serious threat to Palestinian civilians

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      Is a protest for palestinians a protest for Hamas? What Hamas did to free palestinians or make them safe from Israel’s agression?

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          It’s not the only thing they could, as they could as well not doing it. What they wanted to achieve with it?

          I’m not a palestinian, you aren’t too. How we’d judje if our takes worth anything?

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            To do nothing is to die. That’s not a real choice.

            As for what they achieved? Israel was well on its way to a fascist takeover with the rightist reforms, unprecedented protests were happening inside Israel against the government. Hamas just showed them that their government can not keep them safe and can not be trusted. That’s significant, and it might just save Israeli democracy if this leads to Netanyahu’s ousting.

            Israel was also well on its way to normalizing relations with the entire Arab world, and now Hamas has provoked them into throwing that all out the window and instead inviting condemnation and isolation in the region.

            Hamas has also opened up a new front against the American empire. Now instead of only needing to focus on Ukraine it has had its attention split to the 51st state and Greatest Ally. At the same time, there is no House Speaker. And the Republican frontrunner is a criminal.

            Hamas is smart. They attacked at a very opportune moment.

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              And you don’t believe Hamas’ heads are just opportiunistic assholes like Netanyahu? That they don’t want get money and power from it? Like Hamas don’t have gains and support from dying palestinian civs?

              What Hamas did to palestinians with that attack?

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                They live under apartheid, what money and power is there to be found? They are staring down the barrel of genocide and fighting for survival.

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                No, I don’t. I think Hamas is ready and willing to die to fight Israel. That’s not the behavior of people who only want money and power.

                Hamas has done nothing to Palestinians. This is all Israel. Place blame where it belongs.

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            It’s not the only thing they could, as they could as well not doing it.

            The same statement could be applied to zionists. They could very well not do colonialism, apartheid, genocide, etc. No one is forcing them to take everything from Palestine and visit extraordinary horrors upon Palestinians.

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            It sucks what has happened, but it honestly looks to me like they may have achieved their goals. They provoked an overreaction from Israel which has cost them a ton of goodwill from the global community. It’s also made more people aware of just how violent Israel has been and how many innocent people they kill. If Palestine still exists at the end of this conflict, I would very much expect changes that make things generally better for Palestinians.