Link to the summary of findings submitted by South Africa: https://apnews.com/article/un-court-south-africa-israel-gaza-genocide-71be2ce7f09bfee05a7cae26689ee262

South Africa’s 84-page filing says Israel’s actions “are genocidal in character because they are intended to bring about the destruction of a substantial part” of the Palestinians in Gaza.

It asks the ICJ, also known as the world court, for a series of legally binding rulings. It wants the court to declare that Israel “has breached and continues to breach its obligations under the Genocide Convention,” and to order Israel to cease hostilities in Gaza that could amount to breaches of the convention, to offer reparations, and to provide for reconstruction of what it’s destroyed in Gaza.

  • Silverseren@kbin.social
    945·
    11 months ago

    I would really advise everyone to read (or at least skim) South Africa’s application to the ICJ for the genocide charges. It goes incredibly hard with specifics on quotes, actions, and just generally everything that clearly showcases the purposeful and active results of Netanyahu’s government. They make it quite clear that nothing of what’s happening or has happened was an accident and is being done without thinking or consideration.

    And they bring all the references needed to back up their statements.

      • hglman@lemmy.mlEnglish
        461·
        11 months ago

        It says that no matter how horrible an act of war it cannot serve as justification for genocide. Can you detail how that’s cringe?

        • nyctre@lemmy.worldEnglish
          27·
          11 months ago

          Don’t reply to rivermonster. Argues in bad faith and licks IDF boots super hard. Really don’t bother. Every Israel thread is filled with his apologism.

          • SoleInvictus@lemmy.worldEnglish
            6·
            11 months ago

            I think it’s important that people shoot him down using actual facts and reason, then otherwise ignore him. If it keeps just one ambivalent person from believing his lies, it’s worth it. Propagandists like him rely on a lack of pushback to spread their lies.

            • Linkerbaan@lemmy.worldEnglish
              63·
              11 months ago

              True. It’s important to respond not to him but to the people reading his propaganda. Also to educate them on how to refute other IDF propaganda.

              It’s pretty insane how many full on IDF trolls there are which are clearly not interested in changing their minds. Even Trump didn’t have this many trolls to defend him outside of conserve echo chambers.

        • rivermonster@lemmy.worldEnglish
          439·
          11 months ago

          TLDR:

          Condemns genocide, opening statement then disregards the attack (an act of genocide itself) by a group literally founded to commit genocide that caused the current conflict.

          Long answer:

          Sure, happy to: opening their genocide case by highlighting a genocidal attack by their allies (Hamas in this case), and then dismissing it. And only focusing on your allies’ enemy for your argument that is alledgedly based on principal ; it both undermines the credibility of the failed state of SA and their argument.

          This is a country that refused to arrest a criminal wanted for genocide.

          Excusing your allies is contrary to arguing principal (in that a principal based argument isn’t selective on whether you like Hamas and hate Israel). It’s all sorts of super cringe and transparent what they’re doing.

          Hamas, their buddy, and worldnews’ darling were literally founded on committing genocide. Their goal is to destroy Israel. Their foundation is a statement of genocidal intent. Their words.

          In the end, it’s all academic. The court can’t do shit to Israel anymore than the failed state of SA can. ICJ and the ICC are as impotent as all the alt-left kids crying. In reality, this is most likely just propaganda and distraction from SA helping a criminal escape genocide charges.

          Omar al-Bashir had warrants out for genocide, and SA refused to arrest him even though as signatories it was mandatory (back in 2015). They were fine with his crimes of genocide, but then again, he wasn’t Israeli. LOL, they do NOT care about the principal.

          To be fair, pretty much everything about the whole thing is cringe. It’s just bait for the stupids and the gullibles.

          Though it makes for a good laugh when you look at who the alt-left jumps into bed with.

        • rivermonster@lemmy.worldEnglish
          225·
          11 months ago

          I think genocide is not acceptable. I think the misuse of it by you and others is reprehensible and diminishes the term. I think you don’t seem to know what genocide is or looks like. There are historical examples, and you could learn a lot.

          • BleatingZombie@lemmy.worldEnglish
            71·
            11 months ago

            There are lots of examples and I’ve studied them in university. They all look like what Isreal is preparing to do

      • acargitz@lemmy.caEnglish
        311·
        11 months ago

        Before the Serbs started the genocide of Bosnians, they were the subject of atrocious attacks by Bosnians. Look up the Green Berets or Salon Mahmuljin. The Serbs were also carrying the memory of the Ustasha genocide against them during WW2. They had a victim mentality, they felt their national survival was at stake and they had been brutally attacked. They then committed genocide.

        The atrocities of October 7 have (tragically!) been eclipsed by the genocidal campaign that has followed them.

        See also this: https://youtu.be/T8qGubNO_c0?si=qeZTSxx5WhqPr1vp