• themeatbridge@lemmy.world
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      The subgenre is called “bebop.” Get some Charlie Parker albums. He recorded some great songs with Dizzy Gillespie. Jet is talking to Spike about talking to Charlie Parker in a dream in the casino episode, iirc. The style of music is fast tempo, quick key changes, novel chord progressions, and virtuoso performers making new music out of standards. It’s analogous to the storytelling in the manga, and to the characters themselves. Each is supremely competent, acting on their own, but complementing and supporting the others to make something extraordinary. The whole soundtrack is a wide range of genres, and it was all written and performed by Yoko Kanno and the Seatbelts, which is especially impressive because of the sheer variety of styles.

      Tank! is more driving trumpets and melodic than classic bebop, so you might also check out some Wynton Marsalis. He played what is called “neo-bop” which was a popular revival of bebop in the 1980s.

      Jazz aficionados would probably classify Tank! as “hard-bop” of which there are many great albums and musicians. John Coltrane’s A Love Supreme was one of my favorite albums growing up, but that was the tail end of his hard-bop phase. I would probably suggest Art Blakely and the Jazz Messengers album “Hard Bop” as the quintessential hard-bop album.

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        The subgenre is called “bebop.”

        Go figure! 😂

        Thanks very much for the details, will check out everything you recommended, but the trumpets are the hook for me, so I think “hard-bop” is going to be my sweet spot.

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        Wow, this is a super helpful and informed comment! If you don’t mind, I have a similar question. What would you call the theme for Baccano!? Is that still jazz?

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          I never watched that show, but I just googled the theme song. It’s more big-band funk and swing jazz, maybe a little rock. I only listened to it once, but it immediately reminded me of Maynard Ferguson.

          Take that with a huge grain of salt, because I’m not an expert. I just had a bunch of jazz records as a kid, and loved Cowboy Bebop and bought all the OSTs.

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        Just one thing:

        Tank! is more driving trumpets and melodic than classic bebop, so you might also check out some Wynton Marsalis. He played what is called “neo-bop” which was a popular revival of bebop in the 1980s.

        Wynton is not dead and still performs.

        For hard bop trumpet, you can’t go wrong with Clifford Brown and Lee Morgan.

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        Yoko Kano is even more impressive when you realize she also worked on Stand Alone Complex and Turn-A Gundam. None of which sound anything like any of the others, but they’re all top notch.

        John Williams has a style you can always pick out. So does Hans Zimmer. Yoko Kano? Could be anything, but it’s going to be good.

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        Today I learned why there’s a “save comment” button on here. On the tram now listening to Charlie Parker. So far: so excellent. Thanks!

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      Tank! Is a a fusion of Big Band Acid Jazz, Swing, and Bebop.

      Do you like the soundtrack of The Incredibles?

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        The incredibles has a fantastic sound track, kronos unveiled is a masterpiece.

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        Thank you! I don’t remember that ST well enough to be certain, I will check to see.

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    Then the next article:

    Local anime fan Tyler Jenkins has recently found himself in a cultural conundrum: wondering how accurately he can sing his favorite anime theme songs without crossing the line into unintentional racism, sources close to the karaoke machine reported.

    “sources close to the karaoke machine” - just brilliant.

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      when you’ve been to the top, everything else is down.

      I’ve burnt out some albums. I’ve had that particular album on either burnt CDs or playlists since it came out.

      It’s something else altogether, as was the entire series.

      It’s why I have no interest or respect for any kind of revival remastering or reboot. What was made was in an instant will stand the test of time. It’s like trying to improve upon Shakespeare or the Sistine Chapel. Laughable at best.

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      It is a powerful insult that the recipient most likely doesn’t comprehend the extent of.

      The composer of the music in cowboy bebop, yoko kanno, is one of many in the ecosystem of Japanese commercial production who specializes in legally distinct versions of existing songs.

      That’s not a value judgement, it’s just what that environment is like. Music needs to be fitted to the video, not the other way around and animation frames are wildly more expensive than live action video frames. You can make the sopranos intro fit the beats of Alabama 3 by leaving the overwhelming majority of the footage that was shot to make it on the cutting room floor. You don’t do that with animation because it’s absurdly expensive and every frame was made to lead into another one. Cutting without thinking about how many fps the sections you’re trying to join are would be incredibly jarring.

      It’s also much cheaper to go with the relatively fixed cost of hiring a composer and band to make and perform the “original” songs than it is to negotiate with at least four different rights holders and then pay a percentage. Since animation is getting big distribution no matter what, there’s no benefit to the possibly low cost in dollars (or yen) of the residuals on a flop when you’re sending it out weekly to millions of homes.

      Almost every song in cowboy bebop is a copy of an existing one with enough changed to dodge copyright. I hesitate to say all, because I can’t put originals to a few of em, but it would fit kannos M.O. and I believe that they’re all copies.

      So it’s like someone listened to and internalized the musicality of pale imitations of music that fits into a much greater and broader context and has more breadth, depth and value, but refuses to engage with music beyond that.

      It’s the equivalent of saying someone only listens to jingles. Jingles are interesting and there’s a real drought of recordings of em and information about em. More people should collect and catalog commercial music like that so it doesn’t just get thrown away, but if someone only listened to jingles their understanding and conception of music and people would be deeply warped.

      It’s that old sci fi story of the aliens who received television and radio broadcasts without context and then came to earth expecting that world, but weebs did it to themselves.

      Here’s the kicker: I like the music in cowboy bebop and I think kanno is incredibly talented. But that’s a brutal insult and to say anything else is just saying you shit your pants at recess too. Maybe it makes the first pants shitter feel better, but you gotta tighten up the ol’ turd cutter.

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    Jazz so good tho

    I used to dislike it, but once it clicks 😫👌

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    Same. Too Good Too Bad is too good for me to go a month without hearing.

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    9 months ago

    I also listen to the Charlie Brown soundtracks. Who can forget such classics as “Linus and Lucy” and “Charlie Brown theme”

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    This website has the most vile ads on mobile that come in on ask sides of the screen, cutting off half the article. Literally unreadable.

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        Ah you know what you’re right. It also displays fine in Brave. It’s just the Memmy app I use has no ad blocker built in. I prefer hard clients as opposed to html clients like that one with the logo of two opposing direction triangles.