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geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml to United States | News & Politics@lemmy.ml · 6 months ago

US Green party calls on European Green parties to stop supporting the genocide in Gaza and suppressing democracy.

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US Green party calls on European Green parties to stop supporting the genocide in Gaza and suppressing democracy.

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geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml to United States | News & Politics@lemmy.ml · 6 months ago
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  • geneva_convenience@lemmy.mlOP
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    Everyone who opposes genocide is a Russian asset on .World

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      Well they just don’t want to be confronted with their own contradictions.

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        They’re upset that a political party convinced them to support genocide and feel the need to lash out.

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          Its just important to put the marks down on (digital) paper that it did not happen in a vacuum.

          They were presented with alternative ways of approaching these issues and rejected them.

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      Stein is not now, and has not been for the last several elections, a serious contender. She exists simply to be a spoiler candidate for the left side of American politics. She has not moved the needle at all in terms of national policy - or even discourse - for as long as I’ve been aware of her career in politics. She’s an abjectly awful champion of a party that claims to be the champion of ecological causes in the US. This is coming from someone who cares about the environment a whole hell of a lot, but who also understands the infuriating idiosyncrasies of the American electoral system.

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        Do you not find this ironic when Kamala was the first candidate to drop out in 2020 because she could not even get 1% of the votes?

        Stein is not a spoiler candidate. She is one of the few serious candidates in the race.

        Harris is spoiling the Democrats chances of winning by being an abjectly awful candidate and supporting awful policies.

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          You evidently have a very different understanding of reality than I do.

          We’ll see how it pans out in about 36 hours + however the fuck long it takes whatever litigation and electoral bullshittery Trump is surely going to try to pull off.

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        Stein is not now, and has not been for the last several elections, a serious contender.

        I don’t know anyone who thinks that she is.

        She exists simply to be a spoiler candidate for the left side of American politics.

        The Democratic party is the spoiler for the left side of American politics.

        This is coming from someone who […] understands the infuriating idiosyncrasies of the American electoral system.

        Maybe you do, maybe you don’t 🤷

        • [Princeton & Northwestern] Study: US is an oligarchy, not a democracy
        • “Bourgeois Democracy”: What Do Marxists Mean By This Term?
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      Everyone who supports Putin getting his candidate elected by running a sham third oarty campaign that purports to oppose genocide while doing nothing to actually prevent it, is.

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        Putin getting his candidate elected

        Trump, Putin’s candidate.

        CIA “Cooked The Intelligence” To Hide That Russia Favored Clinton, Not Trump In 2016. Russia didn’t fear Hillary Clinton. “It was a relationship they were comfortable with,” some CIA analysts believed, but intelligence was suppressed. On the fall of the last great Russiagate myth.

        Putin and his massive influence upon America’s marketplace of ideas.

        • Wall Street Journal: Mueller Doesn’t Find Trump Campaign Conspired With Russia
        • Jacobin: Democrats and Mainstream Media Were the Real Kremlin Assets
        • Washington Post: FEC fines DNC, Clinton for violating rules in funding Steele dossier
        • Washington Post: Russian trolls on Twitter had little influence on 2016 voters
        • Jacobin: It Turns Out Hillary Clinton, Not Russian Bots, Lost the 2016 Election
        • Matt Taibbi: Move Over, Jayson Blair: Meet Hamilton 68, the New King of Media Fraud The Twitter Files reveal that one of the most common news sources of the Trump era was a scam, making ordinary American political conversations look like Russian spywork
        • Jacobin: Why the Twitter Files Are in Fact a Big Deal On the Left, there’s been a temptation to dismiss the revelations about Twitter’s internal censorship system that have emerged from the so-called Twitter Files project. But that would be a mistake: the news is important and the details are alarming.
        • MSNBC Repeats Hamilton 68 Lies 279 Times in 11 Minutes
        • Jeff Gerth at Columbia Journalism Review on Russiagate: Editor’s Note | Part one | Part two | Part three | Part four
        • Chris Hedges: Why Russiagate Won’t Go Away
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          Do you save a copy of this response in a word file somewhere? I could swear just a few days ago I saw this same rebuttal to the same played out argument on a different post. I’ll have to start doing the same.

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            I use Lemmy’s search features to pull up my own past posts. For instance:
            https://lemmy.ml/search?creatorId=1468481&q=russiagate

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          Seems like something a Russian propagandist would have at their fingertips.

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            You are living the meme 😂 All those articles are from US corporate and US independent left- to centrist-liberal sources

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              Dude, even your first link, Racket News, written my Matt Taibbi.

              Taibbi began as a freelance reporter working in the former Soviet Union.

              Such US corporate leftist stuff indeed.

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                Taibbi began as a freelance reporter working in the former Soviet Union.

                Oh, did Taibbi catch Orc cooties for having been a reporter in the Soviet Union in the 1990s? This “guilty by association” garbage is what Russiagate conspiracy theorists live by, so I shouldn’t be surprised you might think so.

                Such US corporate leftist stuff indeed.

                Did you miss the part where I said, “US independent left- to centrist-liberal sources”? Taibbi is an independent civil-liberties focused liberal investigative journalist.

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