• anon@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    1 year ago

    I disagree. You seem to be susceptible to identity politics even though it is quite clear that this “lesser of two evils” is actually hoodwinking you into agreeing with corporatism in the name of empty, symbolic inclusivity that intentionally stops short at extending that woke inclusivity to the poor.

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      1 year ago

      You don’t seem to know what “lesser of two evils” means.

      It doesn’t mean “that guy’s bad, so the less evil guy is good, actually, and totally deserves our support!”

      It means “no matter which one of these assholes wins, I’m fucked, but if I’m lucky the one guy will use lube.”

      I can’t do a damn thing about the two party system. That ship sailed before I was born, and nothing I do as an individual can change it. In fact, I can’t see a solution short of possibly violent revolution. If that happens before I’m to old and feeble to help, great. Other wise, I’m fucked no matter who I pick, so I’m sure as shit going to pick the one who just wants to fuck me and not fuck me plus kill my trans neighbor.

      I’m sick and tired of being called stupid, gullible, or uninformed just because I can actually see how completely fucked we are. Your shit is great for people who still have hope. My shit is just trying to survive without the Gestapo coming for my neighbors.

      So come get me for the revolution. In the meantime, stop calling me stupid for being depressed and practical.

      Now if you’ll excuse me, I need to copy and paste this in reply to some other lemming that thinks I’m a gullible moron instead.

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          1 year ago

          Ugh. I’m not pro establishment. People who are pro establishment think it works. People who are pro establishment have hope

          Where the fuck did you get that out of what I wrote? Do I sound hopeful? Or like I think the system in any way works?

          Or is that just your canned response when someone disagrees with you and you can’t think of a decent comeback?

          Is that what you kids call a “cope”? It sounds like a “cope”. My generation just calls it “What the fuck are you even talking about?”

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              1 year ago

              How. How am I doing that? I’m too tires to fight you, I’m just looking for information at this point.

              • Commiejones [comrade/them, he/him]@hexbear.net
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                1 year ago

                Any legitimate vote is defacto consent for the system. The biggest stand you can take in a voting booth is spoiling your ballot with obscenities. It is abundantly clear that “harm minimization” doesnt work. Voting for a lesser of 2 evils is still voting for evil.

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                  1 year ago

                  So your answer is essentially don’t vote, or be really rude with your ballot in protest.

                  Okay. I can do that.

                  How does that help? What does it accomplish?

                  • Commiejones [comrade/them, he/him]@hexbear.net
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                    1 year ago

                    The people counting the votes see the dissent. Low voter turn out delegitimizes the system. If only 30% of people voted it is easy to say the system is corrupt and that outside pressure is justified. If 30% of ballots are being thrown out it calls into question the entire system.

                    If “bad country” reported that 30% of their ballots were discounted the USA would slap sanctions on them and start banging war drums.

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                  1 year ago

                  No. I’m not. That’s like saying that acknowledging the existence of the Chicago Bears means I’m a football fan.

                  I’m arguing that the establishment exists and there’s nothing I can do about it. I’m arguing for despair.

                  All I have left is harm reduction. Which is also 100% hopeless, but it keeps me from jumping off a building because no matter how ineffective it is, it’s fucking something.

                  If you have a better idea, please. I’m all ears.

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        1 year ago

        no matter which one of these assholes wins, I’m fucked, but if I’m lucky the one guy will use lube

        this is some scary logic if you think about it. Imagine you are a person, who doesn’t want to get fucked. Two guys are about to fuck you, even though you don’t want it, and you get the option to choose which guys fucks you even though you don’t want to get fucked?

        oh but the one guy is gonna use lube. To fuck you. The person who doesn’t want to be fucked.

        that’s insane.

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        1 year ago

        The two Party system will only go of you get rid of the “winner takes all” system.