• Redcat [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      Trump made Hillary eat so much shit over the Iraq War, and here you’ve got Ronny saying he wants to jumpstart the greatest refugee crisis in the world right at the border.

      Why do you think your base wants a wall, Ron?

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        https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/109-2006/s262

        “The Secure Fence Act of 2006, which called for construction of 700 miles of fencing and enhanced surveillance technology, such as unmanned drones, ground-based sensors, satellites, radar coverage and cameras. Sen. Chuck Schumer and then-Sens. Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton were among a bipartisan majority that voted in favor of the legislation, and it was signed into law by President George W. Bush.”

        Also Biden voted for it incase you don’t want to check the link

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    I hate DeSantis as much as the next guy but cmon, this title is misleading. He said he would “drone strikes cartels,” not that he wanted to go to war.

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        I’d say YOU guys (Hexbears and Lemmygradians) are bots. In fact, I’m probably talking to one right now.

        The pronoun tags give it away. They’re completely random. My inbox as follows:

        “none/use name” - “she/her” - “ze/hir” - “they/them” - “any” - “comrade/them” - “comrade/them” - “he/him”

        Jfc did Russian propagandists just put the pronouns for these bots…on shuffle? I’m not saying all of you guys are bots but it seems like the majority. Lol I wonder if there’s a script I can use to shut you down.

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            Nope, it would make sense if the pronoun tags were 90% he/him and she/her, but the extent of variation among the tags user choose is completely unrealistic and arbitrary that any community would have.

            Any tankie space would obviously be like 98% he/him neckbeards only.

            • autismdragon [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
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              We’re a radically pro-trans community. A purge of transphobes near the beginning was a formative moment for our community. We’re radically welcoming of trans folks, so a lot of trans folks post here.

              Also trans folks are disproportionately leftist (for a good reason, liberation for trans folks cannot come through capitalism), the idea that “tankies” would be majority “he/him neckbeards” is silly, if not actually outright transphobic.

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                trans folks are disproportionately leftist for a good reason

                I said “tankies,” not leftists. I’m sure most trans people are democratic socialists, anarchists, or non-authoritarian communists. I have a hard time believing a lot of you guys aren’t disinformation bots.

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                  The way “tankie” is used today it just means communist who has actually read communist theory and understands the nature of imperialism and applies it correctly to the current geopolitical situation in the world.

                  Solipsism and paranoia win the day in your brain yet again. People can’t possibly earnestly have these opinions, because I’m not used to them, must be bots. Doesnt matter that they have three years of post history where they talk about innocuous stuff that has nothing to do with Russia and china. Thats just part of the act. And the fact that you think the pronoun tags make it MORE likely that we’re bots is even more laughable.

                  Its really fucking depressing seeing how effective the “bot” propaganda has been.

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                Liberal and Soc-Dem spaces are mostly white male neckbeards

                No they aren’t tf. Maybe on reddit but that’s 90% of reddit.

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                  No, that is true, even if it is less directly disqualifying of the specific political tendencies, and the closing of practical horizons of American politics meant that there is a vast demobilization of political action. So, mostly because voting and engagement with mainstream politics is highly correlated with several axes of privilege, white people vote more than non-white, wealthy vote more than poor, etc. So, most mainstream politics and all electoral positions over-represents white middle-to-upper class. There is less of a gender gap on the face of it for parties than one would think because there are a lot of white and women from conservative areas that vote Republican. But there is also a boomerang effect of people that are privileged enough to not suffer ill effects of failure of sabotaged progressive movements such as the Black Panthers and Jesse Jackson’s Rainbow Coalition are more likely to vote to the left of the Democratic Party. Because you could get some minor pork-barrel spending if you support the establishment over progressive candidate that will just be crushed by the machine or fizzle out due to internal fractures and more minor sabotage.

                  So, yes they are. Maybe that is 90% of electoral politics, but it is true that Soc-Dems are disproportionately white men. Though that is more of mainstream politics over-representing privilege on many axes. And also if it is divorced from daily struggle and immediate issues (as mainstream politics works to alienate us from), then politics becomes horse-race stuff for nerds.

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          The pronoun tags give it away. They’re completely random.

          Nice transphobia you got there. How are cis people that fucking ignorant of nonbinary people existing?

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                ШHДT DФ ЧФЦ MЭДИ, CФMЯДDЭ? ЭVЭЯЧ ЯЦSSIДИ CITIZЭИ GЭTS HЭXБЭДЯ․ИЭT ДИD LЭMMЧGЯДD․ML ДCCФЦИTS ДT БIЯTH SФ ШЭ CДИ PДЯTICIPДTЭ IИ KЯЭMLIИ TЯФLL FДЯMS TФ SPЯЭДD ФЦЯ PЯФPДGДИDД ФИ LЭMMЧ!

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            Still, misleading title, he’s not proposing a war. Could it potentially lead to war? Yeah but it’s very, very unlikely Mexico would actually declare war on America.

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              The United States is not an arbiter of which Mexicans are to be extrajudicially executed by drone strikes. You’re acting like a coward who’s only too happy the Mexicans are too weak to strike back.

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              What the fuck do you think putting your military into another country uninvited is? What the fuck are you doing quibbling over “potentially” a war or not? What you’re essentially saying here is that you’re ok with it as long if Mexico cowers and doesn’t fight back.

              This is a disgusting level of nationalism. You’re already making excuses for america.

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                Typical hexbears to shove words down throats.

                I never said I wasn’t against this, I’m merely saying the title should’ve been something like, “Ron DeSantis proposes uninvited drone strikes on Mexican cartel”

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      Yeah right, and when Trump talked about the “bad hombres” coming over the border and bringing crime with them he was totally just talking about the bad Mexicans. This totally isn’t just another American candidate for the presidency stoking racial hatred to garner votes from people who believe these things.

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    The two biggest things we could do to curb the cartels in Mexico there is absolutely no political appetite for.

    First we need a real federal gun registry database to start drying up the influx of weapons. Almost every gun in Mexico came from the US, almost half of the trace requests come up blank because these forms are all filed on paper in a warehouse that they aren’t even allowed to index properly. The most nauseating thing is the gun Industry is in on it… don’t believe me? Look up (38 Super El Presidente model).

    Second we need to legalize drugs. You can make it so it needs to be bought through a doctor and or psychiatrist, but make all that shit pennies on the dollar. Weed revenue might have dried up, but a significant portion of the rest of their revenue comes from harder drugs.

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      Yeah, DeSantis should be good at this, sadly…

      I’m way more worried about this Facist than trump.

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        Trump talks bigly but is not very effective.

        DeSantis is not charismatic at all but I think he would be effective at what he attempted to do.