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    18 days ago

    Those who make peaceful protest impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.

    Also, the media cheered the killing of terrorists. Get off your hypocritical high fucking horse. Clearly there is a line where killing is deemed acceptable.

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      Also, the media cheered the killing of terrorists. Get off your hypocritical high fucking horse. Clearly there is a line where killing is deemed acceptable.

      Hey now that’s state sanctioned violence which is legitimate for… reasons…

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        17 days ago

        Hey now that’s state sanctioned violence which is legitimate for… reasons… shareholder value

        FTFY

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        you should show all of these posts you’re making to your insurance provider, maybe they’ll knock a few bucks off your deductible for your undying loyalty

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        18 days ago

        There’s one simple trick they can do if they don’t want to feel afraid. Give up their wealth. Gift whatever stock and excess wealth they have to the employees or whoever it is they exploited. If they do that they have no reason to fear retribution.

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          That’s a stupid answer. No one is being exploited. There’s nothing wrong with having money.

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              You’re insulting people because you have nothing constructive to say. Blocked.

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                Bro, you’re so fucking pathetic simping for these assholes.

                I bet you think if you’re a good little boy you can be a little millionaire tyrant yourself. Just keep licking those boots.

                I hope when one of your loved ones needs healthcare their claim is denied, killing them and rendering you homeless. Karma, bitch.

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                You’re insulting people because you have nothing constructive to say.

                You know, that’s fair.

                But, I’ll be interested to see your reply to cecinestpasunbot, since both the first and second half of your sentence seem to be untrue for their reply.

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            That’s an ignorant response. Do you even understand what I mean when I say exploitation? This is literally Econ 101 stuff. Exploitation in our current economic system means that working people who must sell their labor in order to pay for basic necessities are not compensated for the full value of their labor.

            Now frankly if the working people in question were able to work reasonable hours and if they had access to all the resources they need to live a happy and fulfilling lives, I wouldn’t have a serious issue with exploitation. However, that’s just not how our economy works. Sick and dying people are taken for all they have because they literally have no other options. Working people are forced to sell their labor because if they don’t they generally won’t be able to house and feed themselves or their family. People are literally dying in the street because they can’t pay the egregious rents landlords are charging.

            All of that pain and suffering is what makes profit seeking and wealth hoarding morally objectionable behavior. We literally have super yachts trolling on by waterfronts where people are forced to live in tent cities. These disgusting displays of gluttony should make anyone with a heart realize how morally bankrupt the wealthy truly are. Do you have no heart?

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            17 days ago

            Weeeellll you see there’s having money, that’s one thing, sure.

            Then, there’s the question of how you got your money.

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        17 days ago

        Not as disgusting as becoming fabulously wealthy by directly shortening the lifespans and quality of life of tens of thousands of your fellow humans.

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    This man killed thousands by denying their claims. Only those who haven’t had to interact with the U. S. healthcare industry should be surprised. He is another victim of his decisions.

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      He is another victim of his decisions.

      This definitely gave me “Well, well, well, if it isn’t the consequences of my own actions” vibes too.

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      18 days ago

      Osama and Saddam, others too

      But they have not done this since her in Western world, but even then it was the Irish and they really hit UK properly to where their elites were forced to tell UK government to settle a deal.

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    Well, yeah, he was a ghoul that profited from the suffering and death of many. He deserved something, and I find his death acceptable. I think the world is better without him in it.

    There are a lot more ghouls I wouldn’t mind seeing shot dead, too. Dragons hoarding wealth. Making the world a little shittier so they can enrich themselves a little more.

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      17 days ago

      Yep. This is the third or fourth such event that I can think of in my lifetime. (not specifically related to healthcare) Every time I think “hey maybe that means something will change.”

      So far, it either causes no change, or things get worse.

      I’ve got my fingers crossed on this one.

      Until there is some movement on our healthcare system, I will shed no tears for this guy, nor any similar events that occur in the future.

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        17 days ago

        Healthcare is likely the most sensitive topic that affects vast majority of people. Everyone has either been fucked by insurance industry or knows someone who has.

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          Everyone in the country was vulnerable to Covid too; you see how long that unity lasted. Just one example for my pessimism.

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            I don’t think this single thing is going to be the catalyst for some major change on its own, but these things add up over time. Eventually, quantity transforms into quality. People are becoming increasingly aware that the system is broken, and solidarity within the working class is starting to slowly develop. It’s important to develop a long term perspective here and recognize that change is a long process there will be many setbacks along the way. I do think it’s important to use these kinds of events to do agitprop to point people in the right direction in terms of their thinking.

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    17 days ago

    Diane, an oncology doctor, says her field has also suffered.

    “UnitedHealth Group in particular and Optum, which is their pharmacy benefit manager, make their money by profiteering off sick people, and we have a health-care system that is perfectly constructed to create great wealth and power in large corporations and is increasingly badly constructed to actually provide health care to patients,” she says. “The frustration from patients, from their caregivers, from the people who love them, from doctors, nurses, everybody in the health-care fields is just so huge right now. I’m saddened but not surprised at this event.”

    Fucking Amen

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    Why the fuck should I care if some asshole got shot if I have to watch my loved ones slowly die of cancer.

    Dude got off lucky for what most ppl want to do to him.

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      More like why should I care about this particular asshole? People get murdered for revenge all the time and most don’t even get a headline.

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        Maybe he didn’t get a headline because CEOs are privileged and important. Maybe he got one because the public reaction was sure to generate a shit ton of ad clicks.

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    Perfectly natural and healthy reaction. I have a daughter who survived a brain tumor, and if we hadn’t had good insurance I’m sure I would be reacting the same way. The hypocrites are the people acting like they’re above the satisfaction of vicarious violence and are just appreciating in a detached intellectual way that a rich insurance CEO received justice for his crimes against humanity.

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    One wonders about how many of the people complaining about medical insurance are trump supporters who really truly believe that trump will fix all this. Mindboggling.

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        This is very much about trump. How do you think medical insurance.eill be in the US, a year from now? Good luck with that.

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          This shit was happening long before he came around, and will still be happening after he’s gone. This conversation is about the corporations that profit from misery, not about a single barely-politician who enables them.