It is hard ATM to see a left of centre party that would unify even the more casual left. Labours current stance is closer to right for most as the overton window is so far right now compared to the past.
That may be true, but how if you’re a leftist (for lack of better term), why would your decision be “I’m not going to vote for a left-wing party because they aren’t united”? Or what is the reason they aren’t voting left-wing? Is it because the left-wing parties aren’t pure enough or too pure?
As for why many of rest of the left wing are not voting at all.
It is because they do not see any party offering to actually solve the problems or improve the nation. In any way they can actually believe will make a difference.
Ah FPTP. That’s definitely a bad vote counting system. Hopefully the UK will replace that someday. If the left did unite and stand behind a party that tries to get this through, it’s possible.
Agreed. But FPTP is also needed by the right and centrists.
It will always evolve into a 2 party system. Where 3rd party or independents. Devide similar views.
But a theory I have expressed before. Our voting system has broken the UKs understanding of political compromise.
The 2 main parties are so used to having full power without 50+% of vote. Voters do net seems to expect parties with similar but different views to compromise at all. Also getting offended when they do. 2010 was an example.
“nobody is a carbon copy of me and I won’t vote until that happens”
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While that is a huge issue on the left.
It is hard ATM to see a left of centre party that would unify even the more casual left. Labours current stance is closer to right for most as the overton window is so far right now compared to the past.
That may be true, but how if you’re a leftist (for lack of better term), why would your decision be “I’m not going to vote for a left-wing party because they aren’t united”? Or what is the reason they aren’t voting left-wing? Is it because the left-wing parties aren’t pure enough or too pure?
As for why many of rest of the left wing are not voting at all.
It is because they do not see any party offering to actually solve the problems or improve the nation. In any way they can actually believe will make a difference.
I voted green. As I disagree with them on less then the others.
But labour is no longer left wing. And in no way deserves left wing support. Certainly not the support of the 16m disabled in the UK.
But yes under FPTP the failure of the left wing to unite around any one party is the reason we have no representation.
But not the reason labour has treated us like a default vote without earning our vote.
Ah FPTP. That’s definitely a bad vote counting system. Hopefully the UK will replace that someday. If the left did unite and stand behind a party that tries to get this through, it’s possible.
Or revolution. Who knows.
Agreed. But FPTP is also needed by the right and centrists.
It will always evolve into a 2 party system. Where 3rd party or independents. Devide similar views.
But a theory I have expressed before. Our voting system has broken the UKs understanding of political compromise.
The 2 main parties are so used to having full power without 50+% of vote. Voters do net seems to expect parties with similar but different views to compromise at all. Also getting offended when they do. 2010 was an example.